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Old 10-27-2017, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Koskinen is out, too.
Get this .. Rumor has it that Koskinen was allowed to stay on to get in the time he needed to retire with a full pension!
This kind of crap is why I don't understand why the left loves criminality as long as the leftist elites are the ones committing it?

It's their taxes paying for these criminals pensions too!

I don't want a criminal 'so-called' republican getting away with law-breaking either!
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Old 10-27-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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i recall many leftists here saying no wrongdoing occurred.



too bad they can't send the bill to lois lerner.
I don't understand why the ones in charge at the time are not held responsible and liable
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Old 10-27-2017, 10:46 PM
 
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There was never any real chance for any significant action. It was an administrative screw up. Nothing illegal.
LOL, administrative screw up----LOLOLOL They sent questions after questions for these groups to answer and it took a long time to answer them right to the satisfaction of the government, then they kept sending them more and more requirements and red tape to jump through so they would not get their accreditation before it became too late.

The videos about it are on YouTube.
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Old 10-27-2017, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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i recall many leftists here saying no wrongdoing occurred.



too bad they can't send the bill to lois lerner.
Everyone at the IRS above GS-11 at the time should be fired....Lois should be under lock and key.
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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The question is would the criteria have selected "Tea Party Sucks"?
It's a pretty thin argument don't you think? I would imagine it would and so would "Progressives suck" if they been using "Progressive" as a criteria.

Had the IRS been using both terms it is still inappropriate because they are targeting political ideologies, the issue is compounded in this case because you are only targeting one political ideology.
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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It's a pretty thin argument don't you think? I would imagine it would and so would "Progressives suck" if they been using "Progressive" as a criteria.

Had the IRS been using both terms it is still inappropriate because they are targeting political ideologies, the issue is compounded in this case because you are only targeting one political ideology.
I do not in any way doubt they were picking on those who used "Tea Party". It is not in question. But that does not make it political. It is that they thought a lot of these were likely phony...political organizations trying to masquerade as social welfare ones. And they were likely correct. They should however have been very careful to do this in a way that would have avoided any appearance of a political motivation. And we see what happened when they failed to do so.
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Frankly...I think the IRS is getting off too easy here. They get to offer some insincere expression of ersatz contrition, while haveng gotten away with committing political atrocities so philosophically repugnant to the American character that they constitute "heads on pikes" stuff.

Richard Nixon once considered weaponizing the IRS to punish his perceived political enemies, and was hounded from office under the spectre of impeachment. He didn't actually use the IRS against his opponents, mind you; he just thought about it. The Democrats in Congress at the time deemed that enough to include it among the allegations in articles of impeachment.

B. Hussein Obama actually DID weaponize the IRS and use the same against his political enemies, who were merely interested citizens participating in the political process. Yet neither he nor his lackey henchmen at the IRS will pay any meaningful price at all.

How far we have fallen as a nation.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Frankly...I think the IRS is getting off too easy here. They get to offer some insincere expression of ersatz contrition, while haveng gotten away with committing political atrocities so philosophically repugnant to the American character that they constitute "heads on pikes" stuff.

Richard Nixon once considered weaponizing the IRS to punish his perceived political enemies, and was hounded from office under the spectre of impeachment. He didn't actually use the IRS against his opponents, mind you; he just thought about it. The Democrats in Congress at the time deemed that enough to include it among the allegations in articles of impeachment.

B. Hussein Obama actually DID weaponize the IRS and use the same against his political enemies, who were merely interested citizens participating in the political process. Yet neither he nor his lackey henchmen at the IRS will pay any meaningful price at all.

How far we have fallen as a nation.
Nonsense. There is not sign one of White House involvement. Virtually all involved were career government employees dating back to past administrations.
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:20 PM
 
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Nonsense. There is not sign one of White House involvement. Virtually all involved were career government employees dating back to past administrations.
B. Hussein Obama failed to interdict this illegal activity on the part of the IRS, in egregious violation of his oath of office. Even if one is inclined to excuse his inclination to tacitly sanction the illegal activity by the IRS, no thinking person can possibly pardon his nonfeasance and the sheer fecklessness manifest in his failure to prosecute these malefactors.

It's not necessarily what he did (and the fact that he was really the only possible beneficiary of these illegal acts essentially renders any putative assumption of innocence on his a laughable canard), but what he failed to do that renders him culpable.
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Accountability for the crimes committed. 65 years ago, someone if not a few, would have got the electric chair to set an example, that no one is above the constitution... and tyrants are executed.
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