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Old 11-01-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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(question for those who support the recent statue removals, of course)

would you support removing the Lincoln memorial? Removing the "Land of Lincoln" slogan from Illinois?

 
Old 11-01-2017, 08:54 AM
 
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Based on the current climate, if you’re white, you’re a white supremacist.

Maybe a better title for your thread would be “if you’re liberal, how would you exterminate all people who don’t agree with you?”.
 
Old 11-01-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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Plenty of evidence in his own words to indicate he felt black people were inferior to white.
I was at the Chicago History Museum a year ago and they almost an entire floor dedicated to Lincoln, but none of his commentary on race. Made me chuckle out loud what a whitewashing has been done over his legacy.
 
Old 11-01-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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Only opinion that matters on this topic are the people of Illinois, I'm from Illinois and I say Lincoln stays.

Lincoln for all his faults was a great President, probably the greatest. He kept the USA from splitting in two, hard to beat that.

If it wasn't for Lincoln, many of the people(southerners) waving those American flags and demanding patriotism wouldn't even be American.
 
Old 11-01-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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Meh. Plenty, if not the majority of whites back then espoused backward thoughts about non-whites, particularly Africans.
 
Old 11-01-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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(question for those who support the recent statue removals, of course)

would you support removing the Lincoln memorial? Removing the "Land of Lincoln" slogan from Illinois?
Why, did you find some super secret info in the JFK files, or did Alex Jones report it? Or, are going to pull up the fact that Lincoln would have let slavery continue in the south if it would avoid a civil war?
Or is it just another RWNJ $hit stir/click bait false controversy thread?
 
Old 11-01-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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We cannot judge people from the past, 200, 100 or even 50 years ago by our standards of today. It's clear from the historical record that Lincoln did not consider blacks to be the equal to white people and he advocated shipping former slaves back to Africa.

Is it true that blacks are inferior? Of course not, and we know that today, however in the 19th century, that wasn't widely known or believed. We cannot judge historical figures by today's standards and we shouldn't be tearing down statues or defacing these great men in such a way.
 
Old 11-01-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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(question for those who support the recent statue removals, of course)

would you support removing the Lincoln memorial? Removing the "Land of Lincoln" slogan from Illinois?
What do you mean "if"? Lincoln was absolutely a White supremecist. Read his words.
 
Old 11-01-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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No, only the ones who identify with the Alt Right and their ideas.
Lincoln would have shared many of the alt rights views, yet he is a hero and the alt right are racists. You have a problem with consistency.
 
Old 11-01-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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Lincoln would have shared many of the alt rights views, yet he is a hero and the alt right are racists. You have a problem with consistency.
Alt Right is trying to tear this country in two, Lincoln kept it together.

Like I said, Lincoln for all his faults redeemed himself.

If Trump or David Duke find the cure for cancer and share it without charge, I'd support a statue in their honor. I'd wear a MAGA hat if they did that.
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