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Old 11-03-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Be careful, jealousy leads to murder
it does but their greed also leads to murder
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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It takes money to make money.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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I am fortunate to have lived a comfortable life. The only folks I know perosnally, that have used unemployment and medicaid are Republicans who have come into hard times. I don't begrudge them living in a 400K house, with three new cars in the driveway, the horse in the stable, etc. as they get what they can. I would be hard pressed to begrudge a single woman who has a few kids, works at Walmart and needs food stamps to get by.
Wow I don't know where you live, but in my area I know plenty of democrats who have been on unemployment. Many by choice, taking voluntary layoffs during hunting season. Government programs are in fact often abused and misused.
I begrudge anyone one who cheats the system.
The single mom example you used. I don't begrudge her, unless she is the one who keeps getting pregnant from multiple fathers without concern for who needs to pay to feed and raise those children. Lets not pretend that such people are uncommon. I also begrudge the sperm donors for not being responsible men.

Back on topic.
I never met a self made millionaire who is lazy. The ones I know work 80 hour plus weeks and devote themselves to their businesses often at the expense of of anything resembling a family life. No I don't begrudge them, but I don't envy them either.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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Being wealthy and successful usually comes with some type of sacrifice and hard work. More power to them.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:13 PM
 
Location: USA
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I never met a self made millionaire who is lazy. The ones I know work 80 hour plus weeks and devote themselves to their businesses often at the expense of of anything resembling a family life. No I don't begrudge them, but I don't envy them either.
A self-made millionaire who works 80 hours a week is not rich.

Rich is living off of business profits, capital gains, stock dividends, and interest (i.e. living comfortably off the backs of others). Rich is having enough money to buy political power. We're talking billionaires like George Soros, The Koch Brothers, the Walton family, etc.

The brain surgeon or small business owner who has a million in their 401k is chump change.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Being wealthy and successful usually comes with some type of sacrifice and hard work. More power to them.
yea on maybe my back:eek--- not all rich are -slave masters- but good many of them will bust hell wide open
not all are bad people really- but the Greed worm just always get in bed with Ms Arrogance and make a baby named Selfish Me-myself-n-I...

oops just happens
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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3 of those people are ultra-rich, 2 are not. One is Mark Zuckerberg who did in-fact steal his idea from a classmate.

I've never heard of "Stephen Hawkins", I assume you mean Stephen Hawking. He only has a net worth of ~$20 million. You couldn't even buy a private jet for that much.

But when I said "Steal" i was referring more to the financier/executive class, people who are largely unaccountable to their own shareholders. And those people do exist - you failed to mention them when describing the supposedly "two types of ultra rich."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkoPq5AOCOA
So 20 million isn't ultra rich?

A net worth of less than half of that puts you in the 1% in the U.S.

A measly 32k a year puts one in the 1% internationally, but someone worth 20 million isn't ultra rich.......ok there buddy

Being that you just found out that you're probably in the top percentage for income on this planet, why don't you quit stealing and sucking up all the planets resources. What you probably earn in one day could feed a family of 4 for an entire year in some parts of the world, but you're on an online forum pointing your finger at people more successful than yourself because your a typical leftist hypocrite.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Unless you are born into it, people become rich usually because what they do has value - whether it's producing and selling products, entertainment, banking, etc.

Living off the fruits of other's labor? At a certain point, yeah - that's how it works. They mange the process and try to remain profitable. Hiring others gives those people a chance to earn and support themselves as well.

The tax issue is another story.

Do you have an example?
There are a number of hard workers who have started at the proverbial top of the economic food chain. Vince McMahon Jr. for instance was born son to then Capital Wrestling (soon to be WWWF, WWF) promoter Vince McMahon Sr. He forced his son who wanted to be in the business to work bad jobs in it. Vince Jr. would then do the same with his kids too.

However, for every McMahon or even Trump, there are the Paris Hiltons and Kim Kardashians of the world too.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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OP... you have a job thanks to the fruits of their labor.
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Old 11-03-2017, 04:01 PM
 
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So 20 million isn't ultra rich?
no, not even maybe
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