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Old 11-05-2017, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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If you asked in a poll if people would want to live under a strong leader with the power to do almost anything to fix the country, I'm sure at least 25% of people would vote yes to having such a dictator. This is why we have a democracy, so idiots hopefully don't get their way.
There is no such thing as being able to fix almost anything in this country. You can fix some things, improve on others and get rid of everything else. Problem is no one will ever be 100% happy.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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The solution is to not allow a degree to be obtained in these areas of study. It is fine to take a few courses in "art history" or "gender studies" as electives to round out your "education", but no degree should be awarded.
Then what happens to all those areas of study that are still relevant? If everyone got STEM degrees, it would be an absolutely oversaturated field without enough openings for all the graduates. And not everyone is good enough at math and physics to succeed in those areas.

Who gets to decide what degrees are worthless and which are acceptable? Maybe if school wasn't so insanely expensive and people didn't go to debt and get a degree, they could go back to school if their field proves to be less valuable.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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And 90% of Republicans want to live under a dictatorship.

No one cares.
This is not true. Millenials are crying out for socialism and radical change to our society. Conservatives in red states like me are digging in and preparing to defend our rights and values. We are not the radicals crying out for change, but we will take an aggressive defense of our rights. Sadly I agree however that our democracy is in great peril. Liberals want a socialist state that is incompatible with democracy. Conservatives at some point will turn to secession, rebellion or coup to prevent the socialist state from happening. Either way the democracy we have enjoyed for 240 years may be in its closing years. The two sides are too far apart for compromise, hatreds are set in, regional divides are as serious as 1860. Bad things are coming, storm clouds on the horizon and when it’s over we will not be the same America anymore.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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If I had my way, no one would be expected to go to college until the age of 20 or so. Have some time to start working, saving up, thinking things through, etc.

What this country needs is a two-year, mandatory public-service program for everyone, regardless of gender or abilities, at age 18 or whenever high school is finished. It could be in existing organizations like the Military, Peace Corps or Vista. Some religious-based missions in service might qualify and some new ones could be started. Some cities and states might establish their own service programs, that would qualify to fill the national obligation for their members. Those who served this term, should be provided with at least two years of college, all expenses paid.

The young people completing such a program, would be more mature and self-confident, than if they started college at age 18 and have a better idea of what they wanted to study. Unlike the Military Draft, that affected only unimpaired young men, there could be no complaints about it being unfair to that one category.

If young people of all types and backgrounds were to come together in this way, to serve a common cause, that would be very good for our nation. It would be the opposite of the divisive forces that are fragmenting our society at the present time. And a lot of practical work could be done, that wouldn't ordinarily be given funding.

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Old 11-05-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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Another millenial bashing thread. *Yawn*
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:00 PM
 
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What else do they got? They went to college and got fake degrees in useless majors and wonder why they can't get a job that will pay off their loans and permit them to pursue the American dream. Their parents wont be around forever to support them.
Bingo! Many of them are in for a very rude awakening! They follow their feelings to major in underwater basket weaving, want to live an extravagant lifestyle and play the victim when they can't make it.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:12 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Then what happens to all those areas of study that are still relevant? If everyone got STEM degrees, it would be an absolutely oversaturated field without enough openings for all the graduates. And not everyone is good enough at math and physics to succeed in those areas.

Who gets to decide what degrees are worthless and which are acceptable? Maybe if school wasn't so insanely expensive and people didn't go to debt and get a degree, they could go back to school if their field proves to be less valuable.
Good point.

Our society is at a point where many employers expect a degree for a white collar job which wouldn't have required one 30 years ago.

When I was working in the hotel industry, I commented to another manager that so few of the managers and supervisors had degrees in hotel management (he and I had both studied Journalism, and other managers had been theater, liberal arts and anthropology majors).

He said that to be a manager at that particular chain, you had to have a degree, but it didn't matter what in. He said that a degree "proved that you could apply yourself to something"... and obviously it didn't matter what that something was.

So, if we did away with the option to do 'unneccessary' degrees, many of the employers would have to do away with their requirement of a degree.

It's honestly just easier to let people study what they want. It's on them, afterall.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:14 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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What this country needs is a two-year, mandatory public-service program for everyone, regardless of gender or abilities, at age 18 or whenever high school is finished. It could be in existing organizations like the Military, Peace Corps or Vista. Some religious-based missions in service might qualify and some new ones could be started. Some cities and states might establish their own service programs, that would qualify to fill the national obligation for their members. Those who served this term, should be provided with at least two years of college, all expenses paid.

The young people completing such a program, would be more mature and self-confident, than if they started college at age 18 and have a better idea of what they wanted to study. Unlike the Military Draft, that affected only unimpaired young men, there could be no complaints about it being unfair to that one category.

If young people of all types and backgrounds were to come together in this way, to serve a common cause, that would be very good for our nation. It would be the opposite of the divisive forces that are fragmenting our society at the present time. And a lot of practical work could be done, that wouldn't ordinarily be given funding.

I agree with this. I've often thought something similar would be a good idea - even if it were just a year.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:19 PM
 
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A survey from the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, and conducted by research and data firm YouGov, claims that half of American millennials say they would rather live in a socialist or communist country than a capitalist democracy.

Here’s where it gets even worse; 26% of millennials viewed Che Guevara as a hero; 22% viewed Russian president Vladimr Putin the same way, and 18% viewed the father of communism, Karl Marx, as a hero. 17% felt that Vladimir Lenin should be venerated; 16% felt that way about Mao Zedong; 13% pointed to Josef Stalin and Kim Jong Un.

Poll: Half Of Millennials Would Rather Live Under Socialism Or Communism Than Capitalism | Daily Wire

This explains a lot of the mindless logic being spewed, the violence displayed by Blackbloc and Antifa, and the wave of anti-American sentiment by young Americans.

These despots they look up to are guilty of murdering 100s of millions of their own people, and they would prefer to live under such oppression?

Sad
What's sad is that people consume these reports without any analysis.

This report is garbage and its not surprising consider who conducted it.

They asked if Che was a hero to HIS country, likewise if Lenin was a hero to HIS country. Not the same as whether they are heroes in general. Huge difference.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:36 PM
 
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Millennials will be just fine. Every generation contributes even when previous generations complained. But most won't be able to take care of their ailing parents like previous generations did. So you guys better hope the new tax plan won't adversely affect the elderly.

Last edited by natalie469; 11-05-2017 at 10:37 PM.. Reason: left our a word :)
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