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Look at how many people accumulate dozens upon dozens of guns. What do you call that?
What do you call someone that spends a lot of money collecting worthless trinkets? That's crazy....
I know a lot of people that buy and sell a lot of guns. One thing to remember is guns are one product where the value does not decrease much especially if you are buying used guns. They can even increase in value. If you buy and sell right not only can you enjoy a hobby collecting guns but you can make a little money on the side doing it.
NY Refugee talked about passengers on planes carrying. I can give you a real life experience; crowded NYC mass transit. When I was 6 years old in 1954, my Mom took me to see Santa at Macy's Herald Square. We got on a bus to go home when a man got on, argued with the driver, pulled out a gun and shot him in the head. He ran off the bus, but suppose he decided he was going to start shooting the other passengers as well?
It was total chaos on that bus as it was. People were crowded standing up in the aisle holding shopping bags, briefcases, purses. The people in the back of the bus managed to push the backdoor open, but everyone in the middle and front of the bus had nowhere to go. Passengers in the seats got down on the floor, but couldn't run because they couldn't get out with all the people standing in aisle. My Mom threw me on the floor by our seats and got on top me.
So how would a good guy with a gun have shot him? Anyone in the aisle that close to him would have been long dead before they could somehow manage to get their gun out. Farther back in the bus other passengers would have been in their way to shoot. Someone in the seats? They would have to stand up, be a very good shooter, and very fast on the draw, or they would be a target themselves.
People just do not realize what these situations are like. Panic and chaos. I can imagine given my experience as a young child what that crowded church must have been like with all those young children around.
No, more guns are not the answer to these mass shootings.
Again, I was speaking not only of you, but in general. Look at how many people accumulate dozens upon dozens of guns. What do you call that? I am a little curious, though. If Hillary had won the election, how many more would you have gotten?
I call that the same thing I call people who collect sets of china, stamps, toy trains, or any other freaking hobby. Someone indulging an interest with their own resources, causing harm to exactly nobody in the process.
If I own one gun or 20, I represent the same 0 threat to anyone because I am law abiding citizen. Why does collecting a thing somehow equate to evil intent? Think of the things in your own home, and I guarantee there is at least one type of item you have more of than you absolutely need for basic survival. So what do you call that?
Again, I was speaking not only of you, but in general. Look at how many people accumulate dozens upon dozens of guns. What do you call that? I am a little curious, though. If Hillary had won the election, how many more would you have gotten?
so what....some people have hundreds of shoes, or handbags
or collect stamps, or coins
some people have hundreds of Bradford exchange deco plates
This and mental health test, every year, you fail the mental health test, immediate lobotomy.
Mental health?
Trump wasted no time and in February reversed an Obama requirement that SSA report mentally impaired recipients to a national background - check data base. These are severely disabled people determined by MDs and court to be incapable of working and recieving SSD benefits.
SSA enables mentally disabled to petition the court to prove their competence and opt out of SSA benefits.
There are no restrictions on a person deemed severely mentally disabled by a court from buying a firearm.
As it relates to this shooting, the shooter's 2 counts of assault on his wife and child resulted in a bad conduct discharge and 12 month confinement should have been reported to the national database but it was not. It's not clear if this slipped through the cracks or if the military does not report information to the database.
No shortage of people who are fanatically obsessed with their former spouses. The parents of this shooters ex wife are members of the church. They did not attend services this week. The shooter did the Kill Bill thing and shot nearly everyone in the church and killed 26, half of which were children.
I recall there were several people in the crowds with semi- automatics slung over their sholdiers in the midst of the mass shooting in Dallas. Thst shooter was mobile, thus creating a perception of multiple shooters. Those armed ran for their lives like everyone else, reinforcing perceptions that there were multiple shooters.
Thank goodness, those who were armed chose to flee along with everyone else. Imagine the outcome if all those armed had chosen to engage.
Many of the armed were identified as people of interest/ possible accomplices, based on eye- wittness accounts. At least one turned himself in to clear his name. Others were fracked down.
Very challenging to distinguish between a good vs bad guy with a gun in the midst of chaos.
My husband and I discussed all of this since he has a carry permit. He has said that he too would probably run even if he was carrying. His mindset is that his gun is protect himself one on one only and not be be a Hero chasing down a shooter. "I could never live with myself if I missed and killed an innocent person instead".
From the comments on here, most gun owners would disagree with him and say he should not carry then.
Israel has mandatory military service and is in a war zone where people are defending the country on a daily basis. Not comparable to American society.
You are exaggerating. Don't let the news fool you. Most of the people live very quiet life, 90% did not participate in even one combat.
We have some very hot headed youth, (usually Arabs, Jews of Arab countries origin, Ethiopian Jews) and still you will not see those massacres.
The issue is the society, not the guns. And the guns will not be available, they will use trucks.
According to FBI statistics 80-90% of homicides are committed by prior violent felons.
That's interesting because I have never seen that tracked in FBI UCR, could you please provide a source for it?
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