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America has been veeeeery busy on the "atrocities committed upon it's own people" not to mention it's sponsoring of population control methods in other countries.
"1996: In testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in June 1996, Christine de Vollmer, president of the Latin America Alliance for the Family, said that Latin America perceives Timothy Wirth, Undersecretary of State and top official in charge of U.S. population control policy, as "a ruthless population controller, unashamed of coercive measures and disrespectful" of the human rights of people, particularly women, in developing countries.
Brazilian senator Rosiska Darcy de Olivera condemned the United States for its population programs, which force Brazilian women to undergo sterilization, saying: "To say that women from the South who have many babies are responsible for the environmental crisis -- it's a scandal."
America has been veeeeery busy on the "atrocities committed upon it's own people" front.
Yes, the people doing this in the US were the progressives and the Nazis viewed them very favorably and got many of their ideas regarding cleansing and and eugenics from American progressives.
A fetus with Down syndrome is a much better reason than most for an abortion.
See I don't agree, and many others support my belief not only in the value of someone with Down syndrome, like my adult son with DS (adopted as an infant) but in the value of a life in general despite how some might feel. We made an informed choice to parent a child with Down syndrome, and many others wait for their chance to parent a child with Down syndrome.
Judging the quality of someone else's life? You might want to hear it from they type of someone that one feels might have been better off denied life outside the womb:
I have had the pleasure of knowing a handful of people with Down syndrome. It is heartbreaking for me to see disregard for their lives. It is my hope though that if we can educate people, more babies will be saved.
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake
And? Who is the government to demand that parents raise a special needs child? That is a challenge many are not up to.
Agree, thus adoption. Many people are up to the "challenge" and through adoption, the child will not be denied their life.
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Originally Posted by Minethatbird
I thought we were pretty much doing the same thing.
Ohio is trying to get, but I don't think they will, protections for babies with Down syndrome still in the womb: https://onenewsnow.com/pro-life/2017...odyqckjg.email The referenced adoption exchange for babies/children with Down syndrome is in Ohio and also the group, excellent for information on Down syndrome: Home - Down Syndrome Association
Check the "Mental Health" and "Psychology" sections here at C-D and across the internet, and then someone tell me why the quality of life for someone with Down syndrome makes it preferable that their lives be terminated in the womb:
It is all sad. I recall, in my youth (early 70s), knowing a man with Down's Syndrome named Bill. I was 17 or so, and he was early 30s. He lived at home with his parents, and spent his days riding his bike and wearing his helmet. A sweet person, but incapable of caring for himself in any meaningful way.
When I read about this genetic disorder, as now, I wonder what ever happened to Bill. If his parents are both dead (since 40+ years have passed, probably a good bet), and if he had no other family members to take him in (he was an only child), I suppose he ended up in a home for special needs individuals (if he survived his parents; he would be in the 70s now, so perhaps he has ridden his beloved bike off into the hereafter).
Bill was lucky in being able to live with his parents. I once, while living in Denton for college, went by the Denton State School to see about a job. The lady I interviewed with took me on a quick tour of the place. She did not want for me to commit to a job without seeing some of the patients.
I was appalled at what I saw. People usually speak of Down's syndrome, but there are other genetic disorders that make Down's seem like a summer cold.
I saw children and adults that no parent could be equipped, emotionally or otherwise, to properly care for. Some patients were 'alive' in that they had breath in their body, but little other functioning. Since this was around 1976, the patients I saw were born prior to Roe v. Wade (1972), as well as prior to the genetic testing that women may now undergo. No doubt, if those women had the right to abort during the 1960s or before, they would probably had chosen that route. I would not have condemned them for doing so.
I did not take the job. The lady was very wise to make applicants see some of the patients.
Abortion is legal as long as is in the no questions asked time window it is what is. Are you saying that you can abort past the first trimester if the fetus has DS. I dont know that i would be ok with that.
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Well, I tried as best I could. No results.
