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Old 10-24-2017, 12:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by skeddy View Post
any type of barrier to keep illegals out of our country will not be tolerated by Democrats
Those open-borders Democrats will not be tolerated by normal Americans.

It's the main reason Trump won in Nov. 2016.
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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"Seems pretty well set up. These folks are ready for the hordes of trash that will come in to "protest", and keep them where they won't be in the way or otherwise able to interfere."

Typical.
Those are people who deliberately ignore the facts, deliberately ignore the law, try to get people to do what they want by force, and push programs (open borders, sanctuary cities, amnesty for those who break our laws, etc.) that are clearly destructive for the United States and its law-abiding citizens.

"Trash" is the correct term.
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Those are people who deliberately ignore the facts, deliberately ignore the law, try to get people to do what they want by force, and push programs (open borders, sanctuary cities, amnesty for those who break our laws, etc.) that are clearly destructive for the United States and its law-abiding citizens.

"Trash" is the correct term.
The most powerful group fighting against immigration laws in the US is not the "trash" but the US Chamber of Commerce. When Arizona enacted e-verify with the "death penalty" for businesses that knowingly hired illegals, it was the Chamber of Commerce that fought it all the way through the courts. Know your enemy.
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
What else would they be?

Rs want that tax cut for the rich.

They are not going to spend good money on a stupid wall that will make it more difficult to get their nannies, housekeepers, landscapers, roofers, chicken pluckers, slaughterhouse workers, ... back and forth across the border. They just aren't.

They're just teasing you guys.
This poor liberal spins the usual lie after lie about Republicans... and then announces that it's the Republicans who are teasing you.

You can't make this stuff up, folks... unless you are a hysterical liberal.



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Old 10-24-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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The most powerful group fighting against immigration laws in the US is not the "trash" but the US Chamber of Commerce. When Arizona enacted e-verify with the "death penalty" for businesses that knowingly hired illegals, it was the Chamber of Commerce that fought it all the way through the courts. Know your enemy.
Of course.

Chamber of Commerce knows which side their bread is buttered on.
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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Democrats are not in favor of open borders and Democrats deport those here illegally, just as Republicans have. Obama deportation rate is higher than Trump's and

Trump deportations lag behind Obama levels - POLITICO

"According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history."

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - ABC News

What is different between the two is the Democrats don't demonize immigrants. Don't call them out for being rapists, criminals, thugs, terrorists, ... don't propose a boondoggle of a wall for show, ...
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Democrats are not in favor of open borders and Democrats deport those here illegally, just as Republicans have. Obama deportation rate is higher than Trump's and

Trump deportations lag behind Obama levels - POLITICO

"According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history."

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - ABC News

What is different between the two is the Democrats don't demonize immigrants. Don't call them out for being rapists, criminals, thugs, terrorists, ... don't propose a boondoggle of a wall for show, ...

Nope! He counted those turned around at the border as deportations. Also he implemented DACA and DAPA which protected millions from deportation. Obama's deportation record was dismal.


Deportations come mostly from border, DHS chief says - Washington Times


Demonize "immigrants"? Illegal aliens aren't "immigrants" and many or some of them are rapists, criminals, etc. Since when is the truth offensive?
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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Trump asks for a full wall costing billions and some places are not clearly suited for a physical wall and some places don't need a physical wall.

The democrats don't want to pay for any wall even though some additional physical barriers are clearly needed in some places.

What will happen in the end is that the wall will go up in places where it will be effective and not built where it will be of marginal use. In the mean time enjoy the dog and pony show put on by Trump and Congress.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:20 PM
 
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F-I-N-A-L-L-Y

Thank you President Donald Trump for doing what so many Americans have wanted for decades!
And for doing what was promised. Last Presidents either lied about it, or didn't have what it took to accomplish this.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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All sounds good to me and it's progress. There will be nor is an entire wall along our southern border needed. Just fund the 700 mile long wall along the most porous areas already approved by congress back in 2006 and improve existing structures.
The 700 miles which was authorized was already built, so I guess we are done.

Also, Trump lied about how the rest would be funded, so even the prototypes are a waste of taxpayer money. GOP rejected the Dems request for funding of a full wall, and since GOP is still in power, I don't see where the money would come from.

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