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Old 11-11-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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What they would be is defunded.


https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/...DNC&cycle=2016




As for the working class, people that work for a living generally pay income taxes and are ineligible for the programs Democrats use to bribe the mooch class into voting for them.


These voters, workers, want government to spend less money and stop catering to the habitually unproductive.


As for Democrat's war on working-class whites, good luck getting those votes back from Trump.
The republican tax plan favors the rich and hurts the middle class. It hurts college students who need it the most, not the rich. And it's already been said that some taxes for the middle class will increase. So if working class whites vote for Trump again then it's on them. I don't want to hear any complaining.
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:02 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You should listen to some white people who have voted D and would vote D again. They're not racists or homophobes, but they feel like the party has abandoned them by focusing so much on minorities. I fit into those little boxes they put us in and I'm sick of always listening to the SJW outrage machine.
I live in Alabama, I here the conservative White Democrats talk all the time.


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.............. because they're more interested in a strong economy than where someone pees.
Thats not what we are discussion . As I said, we are talking about economic issues that specifically affect minorities.

If you have a strong economy, but you get fired from a job because you are gay, or a bank wont lend to you because you are black, then the fact that the economy is strong means nothing.

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You're not helping the situation when you call people racists and homophobes
Here is my problem with you saying that.

In my post, I clearly said people and politicians can multitask and talk about both. You are point blank saying no. Only talk about broad issues.

So im not hurting the issue, you are by playing to the desires of homophobes and racist who dont want to talk about those issues at all because they dont actually want them to be solved.
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Old 11-12-2017, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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UGH Lets hope that the Reps can retain control. The last thing I want to see are the Dems getting a majority and then the ridiculous calls for impeaching Trump will gain momentum again. It seems like that mantra has taken a back seat recently but if the Dems were back in power I can hear it now "Trump just sneezed and instead of using a tissue he used his sleeve to wipe his nose! He is lowering the respectability of the office and needs to be impeached now!"

BIG UGHHHH..
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If he's still in office 12 months from now.

Impeaching Trump will probably be a moot point, after 12 more months. I predict that either he'll be charged with major corruption or crimes against the country by then or he will become completely unglued on his own and be taken off in a straight-jacket.
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Old 11-12-2017, 01:22 AM
 
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Impeaching Trump will probably be a moot point, after 12 more months. I predict that either he'll be charged with major corruption or crimes against the country by then or he will become completely unglued on his own and be taken off in a straight-jacket.
if Republicans do bad in 2018 the GOP itself will lead impeachment charges

They have him around because their using him, once he's outlived his usefulness they'll discard him like an old rag
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Old 11-12-2017, 04:40 AM
 
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"no hope of..." say the people who are still crowing about trump winning the election. Some folks just don't learn from history.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:19 AM
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Thats not what we are discussion . As I said, we are talking about economic issues that specifically affect minorities.

If you have a strong economy, but you get fired from a job because you are gay, or a bank wont lend to you because you are black, then the fact that the economy is strong means nothing.
Sure, and a bad economy means everyone is screwed. So focus on the economy and mention supporting non-discrimination policies. Obviously more focus can be placed on the minority issues when addresses those groups specifically.

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Here is my problem with you saying that.

In my post, I clearly said people and politicians can multitask and talk about both. You are point blank saying no. Only talk about broad issues.

So im not hurting the issue, you are by playing to the desires of homophobes and racist who dont want to talk about those issues at all because they dont actually want them to be solved.
I said no such thing. That is completely, 100% fabricated by you.


You're guilty of doing exactly what turns people off. You invented a position I never even came close to espousing, then immediately started screeching about racists and homophobes. That's exactly what the SJW nutjobs did - vilify anyone who doesn't want to talk about minority issues and be outraged all the time and call them a bigot, even though those people aren't bigots and probably support just about all the actual policy positions that would help minorities.
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:05 PM
 
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UGH Lets hope that the Reps can retain control. The last thing I want to see are the Dems getting a majority and then the ridiculous calls for impeaching Trump will gain momentum again. ...
Music to my ears
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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Among the states with Senate elections in 2018, only one (Nevada) has a Republican running for re-election in a state that voted for Clinton. Compare that with 10 states that voted for Trump and have Democratic senators running in 2018. How many Trump voters in West Virginia, North Dakota, Indiana, Missouri and Montana are going to support re-election of their Democratic senators, when their party been far more inclined to obstruct the president's agenda than to cooperate with his administration?

Something that many are also overlooking from the strong Democratic results in Virginia this week was their nominee's very poor performance in rural areas despite carrying the state. Most of the Trump states are a great deal less metropolitan than Virginia, and even more so less than New Jersey which hardly has any truly rural areas. If rural America is going to vote as a bloc for Republicans to the extent that certain urban demographics do for Democrats, there isn't likely to be a majority blue Senate for a very long time.

Terrific analysis. Mid-terms in disproportionately rural states = Mainstream American issues prevail, with the "Let Johnny go to the bathroom with Joanie crowd" totally ignored.

Dems next shot to add seats is 2022, and they will likely be starting around 40 in the Senate then.
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Terrific analysis. Mid-terms in disproportionately rural states = Mainstream American issues prevail, with the "Let Johnny go to the bathroom with Joanie crowd" totally ignored.

Dems next shot to add seats is 2022, and they will likely be starting around 40 in the Senate then.
How does rural equal mainstream, when the overwhelming majority of Americans live in cities and suburbs now? Explain that one to me, because the way I see it, urbanites and suburbanites are the mainstream now....
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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How does rural equal mainstream, when the overwhelming majority of Americans live in cities and suburbs now? Explain that one to me, because the way I see it, urbanites and suburbanites are the mainstream now....
Mainstream America is the city agreed
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