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Old 11-12-2017, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Yet working class taxpayers overwhelmingly votes republican.
yeah uneducated ones
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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This is an attack on the middle class which won't pass.
Exactly this is a deduction that solely benefits the middle class. There’s just no sense in eliminating it.
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Because an educated populace would never, ever vote for a Republican.
Bingo
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:26 PM
 
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Because an educated populace would never, ever vote for a Republican.
Trump got the majority of votes from those with college degrees.
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:28 PM
 
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Trump got the majority of votes from those with college degrees.
And boy there are sorry for it .
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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I know plenty of people who have non stem degrees who are doing just fine, it's amazing that you would claim the only job they can get is in a fast food joint.
Yeah. I had to chuckle thinking of my niece. Graduated with a 4-yr degree in philosophy with a competency in German.

Her first non-retail hire? Bank clerk surrounded by non-degreed co-workers.

The first more professional job opening that came along? Personnel. Bingo. Went to the college-graduate.

That bank was bought out by another bank that in turn was bought out by a third BIG bank.

My niece ended up running the Government Compliance Department.

What better preparation for sorting thru Government regulations than years of reading through philosophical jargon. In German, moreover.

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Old 11-12-2017, 10:39 PM
 
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Trump got the majority of votes from those with college degrees.
Really? well here are two reputable sources that disagree with you.

"I took a list of all 981 U.S. counties1 with 50,000 or more people2 and sorted it by the share of the population3 that had completed at least a four-year college degree. Hillary Clinton improved on President Obama’s 2012 performance in 48 of the country’s 50 most-well-educated counties. And on average, she improved on Obama’s margin of victory in these countries by almost 9 percentage points, even though Obama had done pretty well in them to begin with."

Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump | FiveThirtyEight

And this is from Pew Research:

"College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980. For example, in 2012, there was hardly any difference between the two groups: College graduates backed Obama over Romney by 50%-48%, and those without a college degree also supported Obama 51%-47%."
Behind Trump's victory: Divisions by race, gender and education | Pew Research Center


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Old 11-12-2017, 10:43 PM
 
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Yeah. I had to chuckle thinking of my niece. Graduated with a 4-yr degree in philosophy with a competency in German.
Her first non-retail hire? Bank clerk surrounded by non-degreed co-workers.
The first more professional job opening that came along? Personnel. Bingo. Went to the college-graduate.
That bank was bought out by another bank that in turn was bought out by a third BIG bank.
My niece ended up running the Government Compliance Department.
What better preparation for sorting thru Government regulations than years of reading through philosophical jargon. In German, moreover.

Exactly! My daughter-in-law has a journalism degree, she works for Stanford University (non teaching position) and makes more money than most people with a STEM degree
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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Really? well here are two reputable sources that disagree with you.

"I took a list of all 981 U.S. counties1 with 50,000 or more people2 and sorted it by the share of the population3 that had completed at least a four-year college degree. Hillary Clinton improved on President Obama’s 2012 performance in 48 of the country’s 50 most-well-educated counties. And on average, she improved on Obama’s margin of victory in these countries by almost 9 percentage points, even though Obama had done pretty well in them to begin with."

Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump | FiveThirtyEight

And this is from Pew Research:

"College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980. For example, in 2012, there was hardly any difference between the two groups: College graduates backed Obama over Romney by 50%-48%, and those without a college degree also supported Obama 51%-47%."
Behind Trump's victory: Divisions by race, gender and education | Pew Research Center

Don't assume people know how to interpret graphs.

Numbers are hard and when you don't agree with them, brush them aside.
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The OP is a bit harsh. I never did any of those things and I had student loans. I always made too much for the deduction anyway. I also found many of the government-backed loan companies very "scammy."
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