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Old 11-13-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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***NOTE*** to mods: This is not a thread on gun violence. It's a thread on the gradual increase of (unconstitutional) "gun control" practiced by its advocates, the results of those regulations, and the inevitable trend in legislation.

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The so-called "gun control" advocates have spent the last several decades proving (inadvertently) that their half measures do not work. "Assault weapons" bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones, background checks, and all the rest rarely reduce the crime rate, and often result in an increase instead. And yet they keep coming back and saying we need "just a little more" of their "reasonable restrictions".

When they point to countries whose results they like, they invariably point to places like England, Japan, Australia, etc. - countries that have almost completely banned guns from their subjects.

Take the hint.

In fact, complete bans of all guns are the only things that have ever reduced "gun crimes". And they must be accompanied by ruthless confiscation. Advocates who say they want "just some reasonable regulations", know by now they won't work. The only thing they could now be intending, is an eventual complete ban on all guns. While pretending they will do only just a little, to fool you into going along with "just a little". And then next year, just a little more.

Their total gun bans must be accompanied by SWAT teams going door to door to every house and apartment in America, taking people's guns whether they want to give them up or not. They know that many people will object to giving up their guns voluntarily... but a gun ban won't work unless everybody turns in their guns.

Advocates who say they want a few "reasonable regulations", are either astonishingly ignorant of the results of their own policies, or are lying to you.

Rubbish 50 years later any fool can buy a gun with complete ease, including crazy people and thieves because you gun guys love your shows and easy access cause reasons.


but what i see is lots and lots of dead gun owners and thousands of dead kids. I know a kid who shot and killed himself just a few months back. He was 15 , doing great in schools, scouts and with girls. he got his dads locked and secured gun, and killed himself... without the gun it would have likely just been an attempt , he would have been helped and his life saved.

instead that great american kid, is dead and his mom , his dad, his brother, his sister are destroyed down to their souls.

to hell with you folks promoting and pushing guns like snake oil.

 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:20 PM
 
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Well first you would have to realize that an AR 15 is not an assault rifle.
It is, though, on account of the number of rounds it can deliver in a short period of time without reloading.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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It is, though, on account of the number of rounds it can deliver in a short period of time without reloading.
That is NOT the definition. Cannot you comprehend.


Assault Rifle: short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between sub-machine gun/pistol cartridge and rifle cartridges. In a strict definition, a firearm must have the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:
1. It must be capable of selective fire. (there isnt a single AR15 available to the market that has selective fire capabilities, 1 squeeze of the trigger, 1 round fired)
2. It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle
3. Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.
4. It must have an effective range of at least 300 meters (330 yards)
AR 15 does not qualify.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Rubbish 50 years later any fool can buy a gun with complete ease, including crazy people and thieves because you gun guys love your shows and easy access cause reasons.


but what i see is lots and lots of dead gun owners and thousands of dead kids. I know a kid who shot and killed himself just a few months back. He was 15 , doing great in schools, scouts and with girls. he got his dads locked and secured gun, and killed himself... without the gun it would have likely just been an attempt , he would have been helped and his life saved.

instead that great american kid, is dead and his mom , his dad, his brother, his sister are destroyed down to their souls.

to hell with you folks promoting and pushing guns like snake oil.

You know that how?
Amazing how all those Japanese manage to kill themselves
at a rate higher than a society awash with guns.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:27 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Rubbish 50 years later any fool can buy a gun with complete ease, including crazy people and thieves because you gun guys love your shows and easy access cause reasons.


but what i see is lots and lots of dead gun owners and thousands of dead kids. I know a kid who shot and killed himself just a few months back. He was 15 , doing great in schools, scouts and with girls. he got his dads locked and secured gun, and killed himself... without the gun it would have likely just been an attempt , he would have been helped and his life saved.

instead that great american kid, is dead and his mom , his dad, his brother, his sister are destroyed down to their souls.

to hell with you folks promoting and pushing guns like snake oil.
Darwin parenting award is no just cause for a ban.

Say if that kid was hit by a drunk driver by chance, would you be calling for a ban on vehicles or booze since apparently people and their actions are off the table... it's implements apparently that cause accidents...
 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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You know that how?
Amazing how all those Japanese manage to kill themselves
at a rate higher than a society awash with guns.
If I remember right, their suicide rate is twice ours, and private ownership of guns is almost non-existent.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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That is NOT the definition. Cannot you comprehend.

Assault Rifle: short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between sub-machine gun/pistol cartridge and rifle cartridges. In a strict definition, a firearm must have the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:
1. It must be capable of selective fire. (there isnt a single AR15 available to the market that has selective fire capabilities, 1 squeeze of the trigger, 1 round fired)
2. It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle
3. Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.
4. It must have an effective range of at least 300 meters (330 yards)
AR 15 does not qualify.
No, the definition of "Assault rifle" is more expansive than that.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Give up and close the thread. To many trolls will raise the false flag of definition in order to draw away from the OP's valid points.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:35 PM
 
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No, the definition of "Assault rifle" is more expansive than that.
You are a troll, aren't you. Either that or You don't have the mental capacity to understand facts. I am done. You are totally unarmed for a battle of wits.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Give up and close the thread. To many trolls will raise the false flag of definition in order to draw away from the OP's valid points.
Nah. Don't close it. Let them come forward with their ignorance.
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