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Old 11-23-2017, 11:01 PM
 
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WTF are you talking about lol. I don't have any hatred toward anyone.

Obama had a unique/historic opportunity to lead change in this country. He squandered it.

You don't have a clue.

History will record him as a president who was ineffectual at best and destructive to the country at worst.
I never you said you had hatred toward anyone. Obama couldn't change people's prejudices. No one can. It is up to parents to teach their children.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:11 PM
 
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I never you said you had hatred toward anyone. Obama couldn't change people's prejudices. No one can. It is up to parents to teach their children.
Leaders can change people's perception.

Bottom line.......Obama was not a leader and had no leadership skills.........that was his failure.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:23 PM
 
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Leaders can change people's perception.

Bottom line.......Obama was not a leader and had no leadership skills.........that was his failure.
I have never been so proud of Obama. He was for the middle class and tried his best to do right by them even when republicans fought him. Read the new tax plan republicans want to enact. It does not favor the middle class or the poor, it favors the rich. Stop listening to conservatives and educated yourself.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Blondy View Post
WTF are you talking about lol. I don't have any hatred toward anyone.

Obama had a unique/historic opportunity to lead change in this country. He squandered it.

You don't have a clue.

History will record him as a president who was ineffectual at best and destructive to the country at worst.
"Squandered"
Obama had the opportunity as President, to bring law enforcement and leaders in Ferguson, and other places together, but never did He was probably the only president that could have, but instead the police were demonized, and the murder rate in the inner city went through the roof after years of decline.

"Ineffectual"? Worse.
He passed an unaffordable health care act, traded Terrorists for Deserters, sold guns to Drug lords, and caused chaos and death in Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afganistan, and Yemen.
But, he looked and sounded great, had a good looking family, which made up for it.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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I have never been so proud of Obama. He was for the middle class and tried his best to do right by them even when republicans fought him. Read the new tax plan republicans want to enact. It does not favor the middle class or the poor, it favors the rich. Stop listening to conservatives and educated yourself.
Obama, the war mongering hero, saw the largest decline in the middle class and the largest increase in Billionaires this country has ever seen. Even Trump is an improvement.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:51 PM
 
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I have never been so proud of Obama. He was for the middle class and tried his best to do right by them even when republicans fought him. Read the new tax plan republicans want to enact. It does not favor the middle class or the poor, it favors the rich. Stop listening to conservatives and educated yourself.
You educate yourself lol. Don't worry about or patronize me.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:52 PM
 
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"Squandered"
Obama had the opportunity as President, to bring law enforcement and leaders in Ferguson, and other places together, but never did He was probably the only president that could have, but instead the police were demonized, and the murder rate in the inner city went through the roof after years of decline.

"Ineffectual"? Worse.
He passed an unaffordable health care act, traded Terrorists for Deserters, sold guns to Drug lords, and caused chaos and death in Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afganistan, and Yemen.
But, he looked and sounded great, had a good looking family, which made up for it.
Yes,,,,,,,,,,,exactly.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:58 PM
 
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Obama, the war mongering hero, saw the largest decline in the middle class and the largest increase in Billionaires this country has ever seen. Even Trump is an improvement.
Obama is not president so he in a non issue. No one cares about the middle class especially Trump. How many of you actually have the knowledge of Trump's tax plan instead of reading it in the news. It really screws the middle class, so don't believe what you are told by them. Giving the rich more tax reductions doesn't guarantee more jobs. It just means the ceo and shareholders get richer.
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Old 11-24-2017, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I have never been so proud of Obama. He was for the middle class and tried his best to do right by them even when republicans fought him. Read the new tax plan republicans want to enact. It does not favor the middle class or the poor, it favors the rich. Stop listening to conservatives and educated yourself.
Hold up there Natalie....


Obama was for the middle class? You've got to be kidding. Obama was for everyone but the middle class. Wall Street loved his open borders & low wages policies, and the poor loved his re-distribution scheme known as Obamacare. Obama's policies benefited everyone except the middle class - which is why The Donald is now your president.


Carry on.
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Old 11-24-2017, 05:10 AM
 
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Yet you guys love Trump even though he cheated on his wife and also has allegations of many women against him as well.
This is why Trump wins.. I keep on pointing it out just as I pointed it out in the years before.

"Yet". When you say this you are still excusing the bad behavior we are supposed to be condemning. There are millions of us that do not expect Trump or his supporters to do the right thing. I don't even care to try and get them to understand. We need to get those we expect to do the right thing to understand.

Defending poor behavior and actions is what has got the (D)'s in this position. It's not that hard. Hillary is a huge hypocrite and absolutely the wrong person to be speaking up. I doubt anyone can tell her anything but someone needs to tell her to go away.

You say "but you defended Trump".......yeah they did BUT is that going to get us UHC? Is that going to get us out of wars? No. Why is it so hard to get people to understand that you can't expect people who are not going to do the right thing to do the right thing while excusing those we should expect to do the right thing?
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