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Old 12-01-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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For Decades the American has begged his father to not turn his back on him.

The special relationship.

That with a tweet can be broken.

Ok let us have another Brexit vote.

So you can change your unwise decision.

This time with the foreknowledge the American will not side with you.

Because the American is always forced to choose sides with Europeans and their wars the American will side with his German brother who wants no part of the E.U.

The U.K. as the E.U. Army.

For decades the American begged you not to be.

The same decades his Nation sacrificed itself to those who overwhelmingly do not share his values.
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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Why ?
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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According to the Logan Act we have some people who can conduct foreign policy. Are you one of them ?
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Old 12-02-2017, 05:03 AM
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For Decades the American has begged his father to not turn his back on him.

The special relationship.

That with a tweet can be broken.

Ok let us have another Brexit vote.

So you can change your unwise decision.

This time with the foreknowledge the American will not side with you.

Because the American is always forced to choose sides with Europeans and their wars the American will side with his German brother who wants no part of the E.U.

The U.K. as the E.U. Army.

For decades the American begged you not to be.

The same decades his Nation sacrificed itself to those who overwhelmingly do not share his values.
In terms of Brexit, the US itself would never join anything like the EU, and as a sovereign nation it is up to the UK and the UK alone to decide it's own future.

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Originally Posted by The Telegraph

There is no country in the world that defends its own sovereignty with such hysterical vigilance as the United States of America. This is a nation born from its glorious refusal to accept overseas control.

Almost two and a half centuries ago the American colonists rose up and violently asserted the principle that they – and they alone – should determine the government of America, and not George III or his ministers.

To this day the Americans refuse to kneel to almost any kind of international jurisdiction. Alone of Western nations, the US declines to accept that its citizens can be subject to the rulings of the International Criminal Court in The Hague. They have not even signed up to the Convention on the Law of the Sea. Can you imagine the Americans submitting their democracy to the kind of regime that we have in the EU?

Think of Nafta – the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement – that links the US with Canada and Mexico. Suppose it were constituted on the lines of the EU, with a commission and a parliament and a court of justice. Would the Americans knuckle under – to a Nafta commission and parliament generating about half their domestic law? Would they submit to a Nafta court of justice – supreme over all US institutions – and largely staffed by Mexicans and Canadians whom the people of the US could neither appoint nor remove? No way. The idea is laughable, and completely alien to American traditions.

So why is it essential for Britain to comply with a system that the Americans would themselves reject out of hand? Is it not a blatant case of “Do as I say, but not as I do”?

Boris Johnson: Americans would never accept EU restrictions - Telegraph
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Under Conservative, Labour and coalition governments the UK was never willing to accept all the moves to union or all the requirements of the EU.

We kept our difficult relationship going with a series of opt-outs from the currency, the borders, from full freedom of movement, from defence union and from parts of the foreign policy and criminal justice arrangements.

This held up the EU’s wish to complete its union and caused ill feelings about the UK as the reluctant European.The EU knows that the UK electorate voted by a majority to leave the EU, that our parliament voted by overwhelming majority to send the article 50 letter as formal notice that we will leave.

In the recent election the two main parties shared 82% of the vote, with both affirming the intention to leave, and to leave the single market and customs union as well. The UK’s letter to the EU said we accepted its view that you cannot be in the single market if not a member of the EU. The Labour manifesto looked forward to negotiating a series of good trade deals with non-EU countries, which you can only do if you leave the customs union

It's not just the UK that will benefit from Brexit. The EU will too | The Guardian

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America would never join anything like the EU. Yet they urge us to stay

The average Trump voter doesn’t like Congress, but would hate an expensive international parliament even more

So the US Secretary of State, John Kerry, thinks his country has a ‘profound interest… in a very strong United Kingdom staying in a strong EU’, and President Obama is planning to join in campaigning for the Remainders too. They say this not because they think it is good for us, but because it is in their interests that we influence Europe in a free-trading, Atlanticist direction.

Well, two can play at that game. How would Americans like it if we argued that it is in our interests that the United States should forthwith be united with all the countries in their continent north of the Panama Canal — Canada, Mexico, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Belize, Honduras, El Salvador and Panama — into a vast customs union governed by a trans-national, unelected civil service. Let’s call it the American Union, or AU.

Imagine that Britain’s Foreign Secretary has just made a speech in Toronto saying he thinks America should join the AU in order to influence Mexico in the direction of free trade. The great and the good in America agree, because they think being part of the ten-country AU will prevent war, boost trade, help smaller nations compete with the behemoths of Europe and China, enable free movement of people, stand up to Russia, encourage scientific co-operation and ensure environmental protection.

Above all, we argue, it would show the world that America is not small-minded, xenophobic, protectionist and isolationist. To this end we think the AU should — er — agree a common tariff against imports from the poorer countries of South America and have free movement of peoples within but not from outside the union. We also think the United States should give up the dollar and use a common currency issued in central America, called the auro, sometimes known as the oreo, or if it is not ready to do that, should encourage others to use the auro, even though there is limited fiscal harmonisation, which bodes ill for the single currency. Oh, and the flag of the AU, consisting of ten radial yellow stripes on a blue background, should be prominently displayed alongside the Stars and Stripes.

America would never join anything like the EU. Yet they urge us to stay - The Spectator


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Old 12-02-2017, 05:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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For Decades the American has begged his father to not turn his back on him.

The special relationship.

That with a tweet can be broken.

Ok let us have another Brexit vote.

So you can change your unwise decision.

This time with the foreknowledge the American will not side with you.

Because the American is always forced to choose sides with Europeans and their wars the American will side with his German brother who wants no part of the E.U.

The U.K. as the E.U. Army.

For decades the American begged you not to be.

The same decades his Nation sacrificed itself to those who overwhelmingly do not share his values.


Britain being ruled and governed by Washington DC and our Constitution, is absurd.
The world would flip on its axis, if Britain became the 51st state in our Union of States.
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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For Decades the American has begged his father to not turn his back on him.

The special relationship.

That with a tweet can be broken.

Ok let us have another Brexit vote.

So you can change your unwise decision.

This time with the foreknowledge the American will not side with you.

Because the American is always forced to choose sides with Europeans and their wars the American will side with his German brother who wants no part of the E.U.

The U.K. as the E.U. Army.

For decades the American begged you not to be.

The same decades his Nation sacrificed itself to those who overwhelmingly do not share his values.
What?
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:40 PM
 
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What?
The Russian waking up to what was happening in his Nation with the knowledge of 102 years in the future seeing what is happening in America.

American when was the bolshevik revolution?

What is Weimar?

You know 400 years of you enslaving blacks but you do not even know the last 100 years of your white brothers history.

What you ask?


What indeed.
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:43 PM
 
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The Russian waking up to what was happening in his Nation with the knowledge of 102 years in the future seeing what is happening in America.

American when was the bolshevik revolution?

What is Weimar?

You know 400 years of you enslaving blacks but you do not even know the last 100 years of your white brothers history.

What you ask?


What indeed.

Word salad, with Russian dressing
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