Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
39,239 posts, read 27,635,783 times
Reputation: 16075

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
LOL, nice try at not answering a simple question, so we are left to assume you believe women reduce the effectiveness of our military, strange coming from a woman.


The courts obviously disagree with you and trump.
I am not going to play your "discrimination" game.

Right, the judge is an idiot. I am glad you won though. good for you
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Gone
25,231 posts, read 16,952,501 times
Reputation: 5932
Quote:
Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
I don't think transgenders OR gays should be allowed in the military. I was in the Navy. You live in very close quarters (berthing compartments are spaces of bunks, 3 high). I wouldn't want some gay guy that close to me where I sleep and change clothes, and I certainly wouldn't want them where I shower. Had that experience in art school, where gays would jump in the shower after you (lived at the YMCA as the school didn't have dorms) and attempt to get your attention. Disgusting! They would also slip notes under our doors, "For a good time, come to room ..." That's what gays do. They should NOT be in the military!
FYI, you did serve and bunk with gays, they just did not share that information with you, for obvious reasons.
Too Bad, You Lose.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Gone
25,231 posts, read 16,952,501 times
Reputation: 5932
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
I am not going to play your "discrimination" game.

Right, the judge is an idiot. I am glad you won though. good for you
Because you do not have a leg to stand on.


Nope a smart Judge and America Won.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
39,239 posts, read 27,635,783 times
Reputation: 16075
The reasons you should NEVER allow transgendered people in the military are the following

1. Placing individuals who might be at increased risk for suicide or other psychological injury in the most stressful situation imaginable—the battlefield—is reckless.

2. That all service members remain combat-ready at all times.

But soldiers who have “transitioned” medically require regular hormone treatments and follow-up visits after sex-reassignment surgery. It is unclear how someone who has “transitioned” would be deployable.

3. That scarce taxpayer monies not be expended on costly and controversial sex-reassignment therapies.


It has nothing to do with DISCRIMINATION. It has nothing to do with Trump vs Obama, left vs right, liberal vs conservatives, American SJW vs American bigots. Don't play this game with me. I am not even going to respond.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:47 AM
 
Location: USA
31,083 posts, read 22,113,652 times
Reputation: 19102
Quote:
Originally Posted by victimofGM View Post
This examples you gave are for valid medical conditions. Believing you are not the sex you were born with isn’t a medical condition, it’s a psychiatric issue.
It could be both, once you start cutting off your genitals. Self mutilation would be enough to keep you out of the military, but if it is to change your sex it is ok Combine this to the High suicide rate and hormonal changes in Transgenders it doesn't sound like the best idea.

"(DOD) Directive 6130.3" Any history of suicidal behavior, that includes discussions, gestures, or the actual attempt is disqualifying. A history of self-mutilation is also disqualifying.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Gone
25,231 posts, read 16,952,501 times
Reputation: 5932
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
The reasons you should NEVER allow transgendered people in the military are the following

1. Placing individuals who might be at increased risk for suicide or other psychological injury in the most stressful situation imaginable—the battlefield—is reckless.

2. That all service members remain combat-ready at all times.

But soldiers who have “transitioned†medically require regular hormone treatments and follow-up visits after sex-reassignment surgery. It is unclear how someone who has “transitioned†would be deployable.

3. That scarce taxpayer monies not be expended on costly and controversial sex-reassignment therapies.


It has nothing to do with DISCRIMINATION. It has nothing to do with Trump vs Obama, left vs right, liberal vs conservatives, American SJW vs American bigots. Don't play this game with me. I am not even going to respond.
And yet you continue to do so,,,,,,,,,,,,
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
39,239 posts, read 27,635,783 times
Reputation: 16075
Quote:
Originally Posted by LS Jaun View Post
It could be both, once you start cutting off your genitals. Self mutilation would be enough to keep you out of the military, but if it is to change your sex it is ok Combine this to the High suicide rate and hormonal changes in Transgenders it doesn't sound like the best idea.

"(DOD) Directive 6130.3" Any history of suicidal behavior, that includes discussions, gestures, or the actual attempt is disqualifying. A history of self-mutilation is also disqualifying.
Exactly. But once they throw "discrimination" into the discussion, there is nothing else you can say. It is the word to end all discussion.

If you don't agree with them, you are the bigot. This is how it works.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Gone
25,231 posts, read 16,952,501 times
Reputation: 5932
Quote:
Originally Posted by LS Jaun View Post
It could be both, once you start cutting off your genitals. Self mutilation would be enough to keep you out of the military, but if it is to change your sex it is ok Combine this to the High suicide rate and hormonal changes in Transgenders it doesn't sound like the best idea.

"(DOD) Directive 6130.3" Any history of suicidal behavior, that includes discussions, gestures, or the actual attempt is disqualifying. A history of self-mutilation is also disqualifying.
20 Vets kill themselves every day in the US, seems like there might be a bigger problem than a handful of trans possibly having some mental issue...........
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Denver
1,330 posts, read 700,123 times
Reputation: 1270
Quote:
Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
I don't think transgenders OR gays should be allowed in the military. I was in the Navy. You live in very close quarters (berthing compartments are spaces of bunks, 3 high). I wouldn't want some gay guy that close to me where I sleep and change clothes, and I certainly wouldn't want them where I shower. Had that experience in art school, where gays would jump in the shower after you (lived at the YMCA as the school didn't have dorms) and attempt to get your attention. Disgusting! They would also slip notes under our doors, "For a good time, come to room ..." That's what gays do. They should NOT be in the military!
You need to change your name to Nonsense guy. Seriously. If you had a single gay person do something, that doesn't mean every single one is the same. Just like I assume that all people from NE Ohio aren't as bigoted as you are.

Tell ya something funny. Outside of the handful who adapt the "gay" voice and mannerisms, you wouldn't be able to tell that someone's gay or not. Know a number of gay/lesbian people and outside of knowing they're seeing another, I would have never guessed it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
39,239 posts, read 27,635,783 times
Reputation: 16075
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
And yet you continue to do so,,,,,,,,,,,,
I did not quote you, meaning I did not respond to YOU.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:41 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top