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Old 02-01-2012, 11:32 AM
 
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Exactly how does ones wealth have anything to do with another being poor?
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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It doesn't. Not in the least. To hear liberals talk, you'd think there's a finite number of dollars floating around and the rich people have monopolized those dollars.

Equality of Opportunity....we can all support it. What we (I) can't support is Equality of Outcome, as if the money i've earned through blood, sweat, and tears should be handed to those who aren't successful. It's Un-American.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Some are most aren’t. for example if someone worked at a company that went bankrupt because of greedy people bleeding the company dry. They might become poor before they can find other employment. Others are poor because of their lack of skills, disability, lack of opportunity, institutionalized racism, bad luck, lack of education and many more factors.

But one things for sure. In a time of crises those who are well off are expected to do more not less.



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Old 02-01-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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When you add regulatory power to the rich, and the regulators can be bought - then you can play around with things.

In a pure free market - then one has nothing to do with the other (I'm sure an exception can be found somewhere).
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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Some are most aren’t. for example if someone worked at a company that went bankrupt because of greedy people bleeding the company dry. They might become poor before they can find other employment. Others are poor because of their lack of skills, disability, lack of opportunity, institutionalized racism, bad luck, lack of education and many more factors.

But one things for sure. In a time of crises those who are well off are expected to do more not less.
What you've identified here is the most fundamental difference between the "haves" and "have nots." Those who are successful understand risk, and are willing to take risks, which is why they are successful. Those who don't understand risk, and thus are unwilling to take risks, are not successful.

Those who understand risk know when it's time to hold, fold, or raise. That's why they're successful. So blaming the successful for the unsuccessful is an exercise in political theory, not financial sense.

In other words, Democrats and Liberals engage in class-warfare because they know that the base constituency they are speaking to were NEVER destined to be successful to begin with.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: The Nanny State of MD
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Exactly how does ones wealth have anything to do with another being poor?
It doesn't. Being rich or poor, most of the time, has to do with ones actions. Whether it is something that you have done to make you rich/poor or something that your family has done. IMO the poor should be thanking the rich considering they are, usually, the ones who make jobs.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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Exactly how does ones wealth have anything to do with another being poor?
Ask Qaddaffi, when you get the chance.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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Poor people are poor, and remain that way, because a rich person refuses to pay them a living wage. Period. Spin it any way you like it is the essence of the paradigm. There are also other extrinsics such as poor people (relatively) being tasked with maintaining the essential infrastructure of the country while richer people are given exemptions from virtually any responsibility for the day to day running of the country. What a fail thread.

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Old 02-01-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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Poor people are poor, and remain that way, because a rich person refuses to pay them a living wage. Period. Spin it any way you like it is the essence of the paradigm. There are also other extrinsics such as poor people (relatively) being tasked with maintaining the essential infrastructure of the country while richer people are given exemptions from virtually any responsibility for the day to day running of the country. What a fail thread.

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Oh, boy. The "living wage" argument again. Wouldn't it be awesome if everyone earned $30 per hour and paid $19 for a Big Mac?!

Yipppeeee!!!!!
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:32 PM
 
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Exactly how does ones wealth have anything to do with another being poor?


I just held you up at gunpoint. Now, I'm rich and you're poor.

I also got a huge tax break, outsourced jobs to a foreign country (creating unemployment and poverty here), bought off a congressperson, skirted taxation by placing my money offshore and out of reach (less money to spend on infrastructure), told you the company didn't have money for your raise despite my lucrative bonus, fired you a week before you qualified for a pension, dumped toxic substances illegally and anonymously (passing the cost onto the taxpayers), etc, etc.

Hard work used to make a person well off. Now, we're realizing that no matter how hard we work, no matter if our spouse now has to take a job, it won't put us any further ahead.

And you ask what the wealthy has to do with the poor being poor?
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