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View Poll Results: Which one is the worst?
Martin Shkreli 10 20.00%
Mitch McConnell 12 24.00%
Ajit Pai 22 44.00%
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Old 12-15-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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The FCC put the Internet in the same regulatory camp as the telephone by classifying it like a public utility
And who censors what you transmit on the telephone? Wait for it... Nobody!

That's because telephones (and cargo carriers and Internet carriers) are common carriers. This is a damn good thing for them, too - your cell phone company isn't criminally liable when someone plans a crime over the phone, nor is your friendly UPS driver at risk of being charges with accessory if he drops off a box of bomb-making materials, nor is Verizon going to get charged with anything because a terrorists uses their network to send email.

You can bet your last dollar that Verizon and Comcast will fight tooth and nail to be considered common carriers any time a question of liability pops up, and it is 100% a given that people like Pai will argue that, sure, while they shouldn't have any of the responibilities that come with being a common carrier, they most certainly deserve the benefits.

Why are you carrying water for the corporations who do not have anything resembling your best interest at heart?

 
Old 12-15-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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Who has legal rights and owns your website content?
It doesn't matter. Without NN, a carrier can decide that none of their customers should ever be able to reach your website. That is, in fact, the point of the debate.
 
Old 12-15-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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Who has legal rights and owns your website content?
I do and as a content provider the only way NN effects me is that I know that whoever wants to view my content will be able to do so. I pay a ridiculous amount of money each month to insure that those consumers viewing my content are going to be using one the fastest sites on the Internet. That all becomes pointless if the ISP can strangle the service I'm providing to consumers between the pole and the house.

Now you answer my question, should the telephone company be able to decide who you can call?
 
Old 12-15-2017, 12:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It doesn't matter. Without NN, a carrier can decide that none of their customers should ever be able to reach your website. That is, in fact, the point of the debate.


It does matter. Under NN who owns the content on your Facebook page? Who had exclusive rights to your content on Facebook before NN?
 
Old 12-15-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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It doesn't matter. Without NN, a carrier can decide that none of their customers should ever be able to reach your website. That is, in fact, the point of the debate.
And under the current rules, if they do so, the FTC can (and is directed to) initiate anti-trust proceedings against them.
 
Old 12-15-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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It does matter. Under NN who owns the content on your Facebook page? Who had exclusive rights to your content on Facebook before NN?
NN has no bearing on who owns content. Dude, you're all over the place.

My website and my Facebook page are two very different things, and content ownership on either has bugger-all to with NN.
 
Old 12-15-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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It does matter. Under NN who owns the content on your Facebook page? Who had exclusive rights to your content on Facebook before NN?
NN has nothing to do with this. Please, stop distracting from the main point that is NN regulations.
 
Old 12-15-2017, 12:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I do and as a content provider the only way NN effects me is that I know that whoever wants to view my content will be able to do so. I pay a ridiculous amount of money each month to insure that those consumers viewing my content are going to be using one the fastest sites on the Internet. That all becomes pointless if the ISP can strangle the service I'm providing to consumers between the pole and the house.

Now you answer my question, should the telephone company be able to decide who you can call?


Your service provider owns it. You just manage it under NN.
 
Old 12-15-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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Your service provider owns it. You just manage it under NN.
Net Neutrality regulations have nothing to do with ownership of content.
 
Old 12-15-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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Your service provider owns it. You just manage it under NN.
You are not telling the truth. I will go so far as if to say that you deliberately lie by now.
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