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Old 12-15-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I'm 28.

I was thinking Saul Alinsky was 28 in about 1937.
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Old 12-15-2017, 08:58 PM
 
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They seem to specialize in targeting the individual. (Alinksy rule: Pick a target it, isolate it, attack it, and destroy it (or something like that)).

However, what they cannot, yet, do is target entire groups and be able to do anything meaningful.
Sure they can. They targeted whites 60 years ago, and it's been a stunning success. They demonized the white race, and now whites police themselves to prevent members of their group from getting involved in the political process to do things on behalf of the group.
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Old 12-15-2017, 10:00 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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They seem to specialize in targeting the individual. (Alinksy rule: Pick a target it, isolate it, attack it, and destroy it (or something like that)).
That's called politics. Like saying Bill Clinton is a scumbag womanizer, Al Gore is a hypocrite, Bernie Sanders is a socialist, Hillary Clinton is power hungry and Joe Biden needs to be investigated for the way he hugs people (and there's some truth in all those statements.)

And at this moment republicans are targeting, attacking and destroying Elizabeth Warren for saying she was Native American on past job applications.

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If we try and have a guy fight the Deep State, like Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Sean Hannity, the enemy will try to pull out the all stops from sexual assault allegations to claims of tax fraud to claims of racism, etc, to try and destroy them and get people to back away from them and their cause.
Did anyone accuse Ronald Reagan, GW Bush, Mitt Romney, Rand Paul or John McCain of sexual assault, tax fraud or racism? (No, because there was no evidence they did those things.)

Why are republicans defending politicians who have accusations of sexual assault, tax fraud and racism?

Instead of defending sex offenders, tax criminals and racists, why not support candidates like Ronald Reagan, GW Bush and Mitt Romney who have some form of class, manners and morals?

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Old 12-15-2017, 10:11 PM
 
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Saul Alinsky didn't know the internet would be invented so we could nearly instant access to all sorts of news.
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Old 12-15-2017, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Good information OP

There are reports of the lawyer Lisa Bloom recruiting women and paying them to make claims against Trump. Money has changed hands.
A woman never forgets a rape or a molestation.

Women are easy to intimidate, but they all understand there is strength in numbers, so when one steps up, she will have another at her back. That's how they do.

They don't need money to do that, silly. The ones who want money take it and shut up.
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Old 12-16-2017, 07:46 AM
 
Location: USA
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As far as the Republican Party in DC, other than a few holdouts like Cruz and Trump, it's really just a Uniparty in DC. The R and the D mean little difference other than the R will kill us slowly whereas the D will kill us quickly, but, in the end, same eventual end result.
You have no evidence of your claim "the D will us quickly." It's a proven fact that the economy in general performs better under Democrats than Republicans, and since the only major difference between the parties now is that the far-right wants to institutionalize bigotry and "bible law" into the government, it should be painfully obvious to anyone that Republicans are the worse of the two poor choices.
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Old 12-16-2017, 07:50 AM
 
Location: USA
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Sure they can. They targeted whites 60 years ago, and it's been a stunning success. They demonized the white race, and now whites police themselves to prevent members of their group from getting involved in the political process to do things on behalf of the group.
Sure they do. That's why the vast majority of the people in the government are white.

I'm also very curious what types of things whites should be doing on behalf of their group, because real leaders would want the entire nation to succeed, not just people of one race or another. We do have white leaders in the deep south still trying to stifle the black vote, so I guess that's an example of doing something on "behalf of the group." But I'm not going to shed a tear if right-wingers feel that "not enough is being done on behalf of whites." Whites are doing fine in this nation, if one has been paying any attention at all.
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Old 12-16-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: USA
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Did anyone accuse Ronald Reagan, GW Bush, Mitt Romney, Rand Paul or John McCain of sexual assault, tax fraud or racism? (No, because there was no evidence they did those things.)

Why are republicans defending politicians who have accusations of sexual assault, tax fraud and racism?

Instead of defending sex offenders, tax criminals and racists, why not support candidates like Ronald Reagan, GW Bush and Mitt Romney who have some form of class, manners and morals?
Because the far-right doesn't care about class, manners, or morality. They just want to "win" and "stick it" to people they don't like. After Trump won, the internet was ablaze with troll right-wingers who didn't care that he was a horrible choice - they just wanted to "watch liberals cry" and hurt people they didn't like. That is the mentality we're dealing with here - spoiled, nasty, immature children who will gladly burn the system down just to get back at everyone else for imagined slights only they can perceive.
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