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Old 12-18-2017, 07:00 AM
 
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Lets see the final determination of debt created.

I have never seen trickle down work in my 61 years. There is always hope that it works.

What will happen when money starts to slow down as more and more get trapped in saving and stocks. Not from the bottom of the population, but from the top and corporations.

The Top just gets more in their pockets which will not increase their own spending. As seen when Cohen was in that group of CEO's who said they would not hire more, they will buy back stock and do more M&A. Jobs lost for the middle as the higher paying jobs become consolidated.
Instead of just repeating the hype from the left how about actually examining the tax bill. Its not trickle down if middle income people save on their taxes as will small businesses.
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:02 AM
 
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Instead of just repeating the hype from the left how about actually examining the tax bill. Its not trickle down if middle income people save on their taxes as will small businesses.
True.

A trickle down tax system means that you tax the rich and expect those taxes to trickle down to the lower classes.
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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They need to get this bill over the finish line already, it will benefit so many people and businesses and will be huge much needed win for the republicans

The senate has had me on edge for weeks with this
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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They need to get this bill over the finish line already, it will benefit so many people and businesses and will be huge much needed win for the republicans

The senate has had me on edge for weeks with this
This is why the far left is fighting this so hard and making up so many lies. They are afraid it will work and doom the democrats.
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:55 AM
 
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This is why the far left is fighting this so hard and making up so many lies. They are afraid it will work and doom the democrats.
Pretty much. You have Dianne Feinstein fighting for her rich residents on twitter and their breaks on mortgage deductions going down to 750k. They have no message on taxes, they say it's for the rich at the same time complaining their rich constituents may pay more.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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Pretty much. You have Dianne Feinstein fighting for her rich residents on twitter and their breaks on mortgage deductions going down to 750k. They have no message on taxes, they say it's for the rich at the same time complaining their rich constituents may pay more.
It comes down to the economy and jobs. The only message the democrats have is they are not the party of Trump. But if the tax plan booms the economy like I suspect it will that message won't work. Most people care much more about their personal fiances and well being then they do about some controversial tweet or abrasive comment Trump might make.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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fake news
Sweetie, you can't complain about fake news while posting something from the Washington Examiner.

I'd love to discuss the topic, but we need to start somewhere that respects facts.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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Pretty much. You have Dianne Feinstein fighting for her rich residents on twitter and their breaks on mortgage deductions going down to 750k. They have no message on taxes, they say it's for the rich at the same time complaining their rich constituents may pay more.
How that isn't immediately obvious to the left is beyond me. /SMH
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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MSNBC talking heads this morning have the nerve to say this tax bill hurts young people because of the deficit. They never once mentioned the deficit the past 8 years while it doubled so where is this coming from now? If this tax bill robs millennials then obama's administration may as well of murdered us.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:37 AM
 
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MSNBC talking heads this morning have the nerve to say this tax bill hurts young people because of the deficit. They never once mentioned the deficit the past 8 years while it doubled so where is this coming from now? If this tax bill robs millennials then obama's administration may as well of murdered us.
Nah, because the debt during Obama's administration was largely accounting for past wars, plus automatic triggers for stuff like food stamps and UE during the recession.

Obama never signed a $1 trillion corporate tax cut.
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