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Old 12-20-2017, 04:46 PM
 
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Possible Constitutional crisis in the making. DD FBI McCabe did not answer truthfully & congress has documents to prove it.

In simple terms he lied or those on the committee believes he wasn't telling the truth.

They have to take an oath to tell the truth and the whole truth. Not evade the truth or try to get around it.

Can't lie to the FBI and the FBI can't lie to congress. They can't seem to meet the standards expected of citizens.

When ask about the dossier he had a problem and his answer didn't match the documents.

In the course of government, the crisis results when one or more of the parties to a political dispute willfully chooses to violate a law of the constitution; or to flout an unwritten constitutional convention; or to dispute the correct, legal interpretation of the violated constitutional law or of the flouted political custom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis

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Old 12-20-2017, 05:03 PM
 
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Possible Constitutional crisis in the making. DD FBI McCabe did not answer truthfully & congress has documents to prove it.

In simple terms he lied or those on the committee believes he wasn't telling the truth.

They have to take an oath to tell the truth and the whole truth. Not evade the truth or try to get around it.

Can't lie to the FBI and the FBI can't lie to congress. They can't seem to meet the standards expected of citizens.

When ask about the dossier he had a problem and his answer didn't match the documents.

In the course of government, the crisis results when one or more of the parties to a political dispute willfully chooses to violate a law of the constitution; or to flout an unwritten constitutional convention; or to dispute the correct, legal interpretation of the violated constitutional law or of the flouted political custom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...tional-crisis/
The Director of National Intelligence "LIED" to Congress - James Clapper
The Director of the CIA "LIED" to Congress - John Brennan
The US Attorney General "LIED" to Congress - Eric Holder

And those 3 above didn't even bother to use the Standard "I'm about to LIE" words with are:
"I don't Recall".

Those are exactly the words that DD Director McCabe used - yeah, he LIED and they KNOW he LIED
It's hardly a "Constitution Crisis" ...... it's just Standard Operating Procedure for Leftists.
The Leftists believe that "Rules" and Laws are for the Deplorables, the Little People, the Bitter Clingers, the folks that pay their Salaries ...... not for them, they are the ELITE, the Privileged who can do anything they want.

It won't even be a real "Constitutional Crisis" if we find out that there was a Leftist Conspiracy by these folks to take down the President of the United States - it will be just more Crooks that get a nice Orange Suit.

Catching a Crook is not a "Constitutional Crisis" ..... it's Law and Order.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:17 PM
 
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No links available yet.
Count on it, they will be coming when available.
Shouldn't take to long if journalist can remember how to write.

Besides if we are playing by the rules of the left my opinion is all that is necessary.

One side of the story is all that is necessary.

Trust me I will get to the bottom of it.

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Old 12-20-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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I sense a lame attempt to cause confusion on what a real Constitutional Crisis is. To downplay what will occur if Trump fires Mueller.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:36 PM
 
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No links available yet.
Count on it, they will be coming when available.
Shouldn't take to long if journalist can remember how to write.

Besides if we are playing by the rules of the left my opinion is all that is necessary.

One side of the story is all that is necessary.

Trust me I will get to the bottom of it.
Relax. The worst that happens is Congress issues subpoenas, DOJ/FBI officials refuse to answer, and there are typical legal maneuvers to decide separation of power issues. I'm figuring you're talking about this:

McCabe draws blank on Democrats
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:38 PM
 
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I sense a lame attempt to cause confusion on what a real Constitutional Crisis is. To downplay what will occur if Trump fires Mueller.
Trump doesn't need to fire Mueller. If Mueller does the right thing he will recuse himself. Also if DAG Rosenstein does his job he will fire Mueller or tell him to end the witch hunt bringing it to conclusion.

Stop relying on President Trump to do all the heavy lifting. The people he hired have to do their job.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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Regardless of whether McCabe lied or told the truth it would not be a constitutional crisis. If he lied it would be wrongdoing by a government official. That is not even close to the level of a constitutional crisis.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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Relax. The worst that happens is Congress issues subpoenas, DOJ/FBI officials refuse to answer, and there are typical legal maneuvers to decide separation of power issues. I'm figuring you're talking about this:

McCabe draws blank on Democrats
Actually no. The story is progressing beyond that link and it's being reported that what happened behind close doors is McCabe is in essence obstructing congress by not being truthful.
That seems to be where its at currently.

One reason for the closed door testimony is they don't want the answers of one witness to effect the testimony of future witnesses they will subpoena. That makes sense. Its slow but progress it seems is being made.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:52 PM
 
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Regardless of whether McCabe lied or told the truth it would not be a constitutional crisis. If he lied it would be wrongdoing by a government official. That is not even close to the level of a constitutional crisis.
I would agree with that if it was only one or two people lying at the FBI. That's why I said "possible" in the thread title.

There is going to be more lying IMO and maybe more lying than telling of the truth. Which is what is normally the case in a cover-up.
Eventually someone is going to be charged and start to cooperate for the reduced sentence. The majority on the left would agree with me on that I'm sure. Its what they have been saying for a long time now about the Russia, Russia, Russia story.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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Possible Constitutional crisis in the making. DD FBI McCabe did not answer truthfully & congress has documents to prove it.

In simple terms he lied or those on the committee believes he wasn't telling the truth.

They have to take an oath to tell the truth and the whole truth. Not evade the truth or try to get around it.

Can't lie to the FBI and the FBI can't lie to congress. They can't seem to meet the standards expected of citizens.

When ask about the dossier he had a problem and his answer didn't match the documents.

In the course of government, the crisis results when one or more of the parties to a political dispute willfully chooses to violate a law of the constitution; or to flout an unwritten constitutional convention; or to dispute the correct, legal interpretation of the violated constitutional law or of the flouted political custom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_crisis


It use to be swinging from the gallows.... What is the equivalent today?
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