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Old 12-22-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Originally Posted by Bureaucat View Post
The groups that are primarily responsible for the increase in Sunbelt electoral votes are not Republican leaning groups.
With the very notable exception of Florida. The crash of 2008 slowed down the migration of retirees to the Sunshine State, but they started moving to Florida in large numbers again after housing prices recovered. A place like the Villages in Central Florida wasn't that large long ago and now it's YUGE. It's probably one of the fastest growing places in America. It's also inhabited by lots of Midwestern retirees and is about as Trump-crazy as you can get.

 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Exactly. The worst places in the nation are burnt-out wrecks for former cities - blue havens - and the sweeping masses of backwards ignorance and poverty in red states. What do they both have in common? One party rule.
I always thought the worst places in the nation--objectively speaking, accounting for obesity, literacy, crime, drug use rates, etc.--were all in the South. Other than Detroit and a few smaller cities in the Midwest and Northeast, large blue state cities are generally nice. Much of NYC's poor is comprised of first generation immigrants, and the city's homicide rate is lower than it ever was during any point of the 20th Century.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Liberals migrate like the plague, destroying new areas after their former states become unlivable due to liberal governance.
Yes the liberals have literally destroyed Alabama, Mississippi. LOL
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Yes, but they generally locate in already blue districts. That doesn't help you, and it certainly isn't an indicator of voter participation.
That's not true. A lot of transplants have moved into Newt Gingrich and Tom Price's old district in metro Atlanta. A lot of transplants have moved into Barbara Comstock's district in Loudoun County, VA. As the South's most economically productive metros continue to grow, and housing gets built farther and farther away from the city core, Republican districts become more likely to flip. There are two ways to stop this trend, however:

(1) Stop being economically productive metros that attract educated people who tend to be more liberal

(2) Stop people from going to college, which tends to make people more liberal.

Ideological Gap Widens Between More, Less Educated Adults | Pew Research Center
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Where will amazon locate 2nd headquarters, most likely a red state like Texas or Georgia but we will see
Amazon is going to put their 2nd HQ where the state or city government with most taxpayer money to bribe them to relocate. Has little to do with the state politics.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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such hypocrisy for progressives to leave the blue state they have ruined because the politicians they voted for ruined their state. these progressives move to a red state because the fiscal climate in the red state is financially preferable to their paycheck and lifestyle and then vote to turn the red state into the cesspool blue state they fled.

If blue states are so great....stay there, progressives. Please.
We call it retirement.


Moving from a high tax state to a state with low taxes and a low cost of living is a no brainer, why stay in a state where you no longer require the services offered like education, culture. social services, high paying jobs.


The medical care can be problematic in some areas but the reasons are purely financial.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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With the very notable exception of Florida. The crash of 2008 slowed down the migration of retirees to the Sunshine State, but they started moving to Florida in large numbers again after housing prices recovered. A place like the Villages in Central Florida wasn't that large long ago and now it's YUGE. It's probably one of the fastest growing places in America. It's also inhabited by lots of Midwestern retirees and is about as Trump-crazy as you can get.
The Midwestern migration to FL is not new--they've been coming down I-75 since the 80s and settling in SW and Central FL. The retirees from NY, NJ and MA have been coming down to SE and central FL in equal amounts. In addition, many Puerto Ricans have emigrated to FL. It is still purple and will never be red.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Yes the liberals have literally destroyed Alabama, Mississippi. LOL
Pretty much, haha. The South had all of its capital tied up in slaves and remained poor for nearly a century. Sure, there were exceptions like Atlanta, but that city was overrun with "carpetbaggers" and had always been fairly progressive for a Southern city. The same was true of Raleigh-Durham to an extent. Now the most successful metros the region has to offer are all trending blue. That's not a coincidence.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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Yeah -- weather is the number one motivating factor.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The last Census in 2010, saw many blue wall states, lose population to the Red States. Losing house of representative seats.

They were just talking about this and what states will lose representation in the house and what states will gain.

They said Texas is poised to gain 3 more seats from blue states, and Florida to gain 2. They are not alone. Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Nevada and Utah are on track to pick up 1 seat.

California, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Ohio and Pennsylvania would each lose one. With California at risk of losing a House seat for the first time since it gained statehood in 1850.

Washington and Oregon, are on the verge of gaining a seat each. These 2 states have been getting there share of exodus from California.

Is there a trend forming(or already formed) that people are rejecting the total control, tax & spend policies of Blue States

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/...3-seats-016816
Someone just has to keep reminding them why they left and to not turn the new state into the crapfest they left. Illinois is shedding people big time. It's dated December 21, 2017 so it's current.

"Illinois declined in population again in 2017, losing its spot as the fifth-largest state in the nation to Pennsylvania, according to census data released Wednesday. Illinois lost about 33,700 residents, dropping the total population to 12,802,023, the greatest numeric population loss of any state. Pennsylvania saw a slight increase, and with a total population of 12,805,537, has outranked Illinois for the first time in years, based on U.S. Census Bureau figures from July 1, 2016, to July 1, 2017. This is the fourth year in a row that Illinois’ population decreased, a troubling trend, according to William Frey, a demographer with the Brookings Institution."

Illinois drops from the fifth-largest state to No. 6 - Chicago Tribune
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