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Old 12-26-2017, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The economy was losing around 800,000 jobs a month, companies going broke, record unemployment, mortgage defaults. Remember all the criticism for deficit spending and the damage to the budget. Whether you agree with the premise or not the Recovery Act was done for a reason and was for 10 years.

Yet here we are going into debt for $1.5T because our corporations are not competitive globally and our economy needs a supply side boost. It just doesn't seem to warrant this type of drastic action, no one has been able to credibly explain that this fits the definition of an emergency. The average effective tax rate for companies is around 23%, low interest rate and close to maximum employment so why do we need this at this time.



Article by Jeffrey Sachs an economist from Columbia University, critical of both the Stimulus Bill and this tax bill.

The GOP's rush to tax cuts was brainless (opinion) - CNN

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Old 12-26-2017, 06:36 AM
 
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The stimulus was epic flop.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:42 AM
 
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The stimulus was epic flop.
How? It stopped us from going into the Great Depression
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Well it depends on what each state did with their funds. At the time I took a cross country trip to Denver. States like Missouri, Kansas and Kentucky were redoing I-40 using those funds. Here in NC the Governor used the funds to do the Yadkin River Bridge project and set aside funds for the widening of I-85, which is still going on. So that was a good idea for stimulus and the repeal of the Bush tax cuts on the top earners worked just fine.

Other projects occurred with funds being spread across many projects.

Of course the GOP required that the funding not be advertised so that their trolls could attack the plan, as bad and a failure.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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The stimulus was epic flop.
Come on now. Didn't you see all those beautiful signs? Paid for by the Stimulus? That sign company made a mint. Then there was the 540 million dollar gift to a certain color company that went bankrupt shortly after getting all that cash. The cash for clunkers program. The Chevy Volt. The $33,000.00 wonder with a 50 mile range. There are so many more success stories of how we wasted tax payer money.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:45 AM
 
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How? It stopped us from going into the Great Depression
Anybody arguing that the federal effort to get the economy up and running again was wasted is full of it.

But now it is up and running, so why the hell are we going into debt?
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:46 AM
 
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9 trillion last EIGHT year and liberals argued FOR the deficit and Keynesian economics where liberals argue that debt is good... 1.5 trillion in TEN years and the sky is falling.... idiots...
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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How? It stopped us from going into the Great Depression
No it didn’t. Housing starts were the worse in decades. That is usually an indicator of how the economy is doing. And it intensely sucked.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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How? It stopped us from going into the Great Depression
That's a theory, not a fact.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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9 trillion last EIGHT year and liberals argued FOR the deficit and Keynesian economics where liberals argue that debt is good... 1.5 trillion in TEN years and the sky is falling.... idiots...
The problem with this nonsense of course is the GOP will not limit themselves to that 1.5. When the Tax bill was signed by the POTUS, he also signed a 7 b EO for Pentagon funding. No that number of 1.5 is gone already.
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