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Old 12-28-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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another W.P. story from an anonymous source?


If Mueller wanted to use Flynn as a reliable witness to catch a "bigger" fish, you don't charge him and make him plea guilty to lying to the FBI because that would make him USELESS in court. You don't put a proven liar on the stand. You give him FULL immunity. Any idiot who watches LAW & ORDER episodes knows this.

Mueller doesn't have anything and the MSM and the deep state knows it.
i suggest you view or read something more serious than a tv show to get your understanding of law.

but here is you hint. Jurors decide what is useless and what is not. and guess what they convict on the testimony of "liars" everyday of the week. Look it up, learn, google can step you through it.
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:03 AM
 
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Trump seems to have his chief adversaries exactly where he wants them and seems to be not taking them seriously any more. He's got some very damaging goods on them. I wouldn't worry about Trump for 2020, he'll leave if he wants to and I think he will want to. But he'll have left a trail of deep state destruction like Godzilla went through DC.

Hmmmmmmm..... TRUMPZILLA?
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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Should we add the story to this growing list ? Hard to keep up with them all.
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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Trump seems to have his chief adversaries exactly where he wants them and seems to be not taking them seriously any more. He's got some very damaging goods on them. I wouldn't worry about Trump for 2020, he'll leave if he wants to and I think he will want to. But he'll have left a trail of deep state destruction like Godzilla went through DC.

Hmmmmmmm..... TRUMPZILLA?
sorry mate that is just wishful thinking on your part. Otherwise explain how trump has is "adversaries where he wants them?

Because all i see is an isolated POTUS who has less power with every passing week.

so please tell us more , explain why you think Trump has maneuvered his adversaries, tell us why, how who when where and such like....
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Trump's behavior signals he is done


This is what, the 2,547th prediction of Trump's political demise?

How many have come true?

(yawn)
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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actually, that show is pretty accurate about trial law.......but ignore my point.....If Flynn is a "key" witness for Mueller to bring down a sitting President why not give him full immunity? why make him worthless by only charging him with lying to the FBI and make him plea guilty making him worthless as a witness?
Mueller pretty much labeled Flynn a convicted liar and this is the "key" witness to bring down a sitting President? lol.......that is the last thing a prosecutor wants from a "key" witness, be a convicted perjuror or convicted liar.

but I guess you are going to defend Mueller and say that is a smart tactic, right?...lol

Well I'm sorry but I think your logic is a tad simple minded. What did Flynn lie about to the FBI? Flynn plead guilty to lying to the FBI about his contact with the Russian ambassador during the presidential transition. Why did Flynn lie about that and who was he protecting? You can spin the rhetoric to impress the rubes, but intelligent people weed through the crap and find the truth. You can bet Mueller has facts and truth, and Flynn? Just the tip of the ice burg. Finding out why he lied is way more important.
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Trump's behavior signals he is done


This is what, the 2,547th prediction of Trump's political demise?

How many have come true?

(yawn)
Thanks for the reminder. Add this article to the dumpster pile of thousands of others. Trump is going into 2018 full speed off of a major legislative victory
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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Trump's behavior signals he is done


This is what, the 2,547th prediction of Trump's political demise?

How many have come true?

(yawn)
This.

At this point, when I see a barrage of predictions about Trump's demise, I figure he is right around the corner from another really funny win.
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Old 12-28-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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the I.R.S and the New York State Revenue have all of Trump' tax returns, they don't need to wait until 2019 to take a look at them for criminal activity.

you think if there was something in Trump's tax returns, Obama, Hillary and the deep state would have used it before he got elected? and don't tell me Obama didn't have control of the IRS and who gets audited.

after a year of investigation, what does Mueller has? convicted Flynn of lying to the FBI about a LEGAL meeting with a Russian ambassador 1 month AFTER the election, making him worthless as a witness on trial.......and charging 2 people on charges that had NOTHING to do with Trump or Russia, way before the 2016 election and you say it's Trump that is getting desperate? lol
You know why they didn't? Because the 'deep state' exists only in the minds of avid followers of Infowars, Brietbart, and Faux News, that's why.


Two indictments - Trump's NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR and his CAMPAIGN MANAGER.


Ken Starr investigated a real estate deal for over 1000 days and came out with a BJ. I don't want to hear any Republicans crying.
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Old 12-28-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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1. Todays news that Trump's team is preparing smear attacks on Flynn. After the plea deal accepted by Mueller (which means Flynn had to give up bigger fish), this means that Trump and his attorneys know it's going to be fatal.

2. Then there are public attacks on McCabe, launched only after Trump found out McCabe is a key witness to the obstruction of justice case and corroboration of Comey's testimony about Trump asking him for loyalty.

This guy is acting scared guys. 2018 will be a very, very interesting year in politics.

PS skipped the news of Mueller looking into bank records from Cyprus, a hotbed for Russian money laundering. There is always a chance he is not looking into Trump's dealings with Russian banks who were heavily present in cyprus. Let's say this time we give trump benefit of doubt!
1. Last week you guys were outraged that Trump wouldn't rule out pardoning Flynn. This week you're claiming he's orchestrating a smear campaign against Flynn. Make up your minds.

2. Andrew McCabe was in the room with Trump & Comey when that was allegedly said? No kidding? It couldn't have anything to do with the news that McCabe was plotting a coup d'état and Trump and our democracy with Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and others could it? Or that he wrote in emails promising special treatment of Hillary Clinton? Or that his wife took in $750k from Clinton associates while he simultaneously was giving Clinton special treatment in the email scandal? Nah...it can only be that Trump is afraid of his testimony.
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