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Old 12-28-2017, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Are most sex scenes necessary to adventure type movies? I'd say no.

And what is just the right level of representation for non-white, non-male people?
Ummm....maybe in actual proportion to their % of population as a whole?

And this isn't just in movies and TV either.....

For instance, have you been to the DMV or other government offices lately?

Next time you go to one take a look at the amount of diversity of employees vs the actual makeup of the population.
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Old 12-28-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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Ummm....maybe in actual proportion to their % of population as a whole?

And this isn't just in movies and TV either.....

For instance, have you been to the DMV or other government offices lately?

Next time you go to one take a look at the amount of diversity of employees vs the actual makeup of the population.
Maybe they are better qualified than whites? Noooo, that couldn't be possible. Could it?
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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Ummm....maybe in actual proportion to their % of population as a whole?

And this isn't just in movies and TV either.....

For instance, have you been to the DMV or other government offices lately?

Next time you go to one take a look at the amount of diversity of employees vs the actual makeup of the population.
Proportion wasn’t important back when white folks had it all so don’t let it be so important to you now.

I know many of you long for the days when the Hattie McDaniels’ and Desi Arnaz’s of the world represented all the diversity that was needed, but those days are OVER. Your grandfather’s America belongs to yesteryear, and it ain’t coming back.

Sorry.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Maybe they are better qualified than whites? Noooo, that couldn't be possible. Could it?
Yes it is possible. Is it probable that that percentage of non-whites are more qualified than all white applicants? Not likely.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Proportion wasn’t important back when white folks had it all so don’t let it be so important to you now.

I know many of you long for the days when the Hattie McDaniels’ and Desi Arnaz’s of the world represented all the diversity that was needed, but those days are OVER. Your grandfather’s America belongs to yesteryear, and it ain’t coming back.

Sorry.
So then........ we can dispose of any silly narrative about the Left being proponents of "equality" altogether?

We already knew this of course.... but it's nice of you to confirm it.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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Maybe they are better qualified than whites? Noooo, that couldn't be possible. Could it?
How does someone get to be more qualified than anyone else for being rude to people and telling them they're in the wrong line after they've already been waiting for a half hour?

Is there a class I can take at the local community college for that?
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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In the western world (which is mostly white) there is a lot of flack for not being "diverse" enough, not having enough non-white characters, lots of flack for beauty standards based off white people etc. etc. Given that depending on what western country you are talking about white people can make up the decent to good majority of people, so why is it somehow inherently bad that white people are portrayed the most in most aspects of society?

Do you think it's bad that if you went to Japan and looked at all their media/film the vast majority of actors are Asian? Or that if you look at their beauty magazines the vast majority are of Asian women? Same for countries like China, Korea etc. Same deal if you go to Africa, pretty sure the vast majority portrayed will be African. Or take India and Bollywood, vast majority of actors are, of course, Indian.

So to me it's just seems ridiculous when non-white people living in predominantly white countries say stuff like "Most of those you see in TV/Movies are white" "Beauty standards have been based off white women" "White people make up the majority of x" etc. etc. etc. Yeah, so? It kind of makes sense all of that will be based off of whoever makes up the majority if not the vast majority of people. That goes for whatever country. Yet apparently only white/western countries get lots of flack for it. Another way to look at it is that I am a woman and a big gamer yet understand why most video games are made for and marketed towards men. So do you think there is something wrong with it? If so, should we not be complaining big time to Japan and China, Korea etc. that they don't advertise a lot more African, Indian and Middle Eastern women? Or even white women for that matter?
South Africa is actually what you describe, Whites make up 8% of the country but are overrepresented at epic proportions in the media for example their 60% in this SA edition of glamour.
https://mg.co.za/article/2016-01-28-...real-diversity

In TV if you asked are blacks overrepresented, then the question immediately goes to were? Ads-wise
https://journalisms.theroot.com/are-...ads-1820118109
Blacks feel overrepresented, and according to here blacks are in 30% of all TV Ads but take I mind only about 3% of those Ads are blacks without white people or other minorities. Now if we are talking actual TV, blacks are underrepresented in some situations, and overrepresented in others which as the study that was posted above shows mean their actually slightly underepresented. One group that is overrepresented though in ads and in TV are East Asians, the main problem is hat their such a small minority that it feels like they maybe overrepresented but they make up nearly 10% of Ads yet are only about 3% of the population (Including Vietnamese/Chinese/Koreans/Japanese).

Now the reasons why East Asians and Blacks are overrepresented in commercials is simple. East Asians are overrepresented in California and Wealthy suburbs nationwide, So as most Ads target suburbia these days, East Asians get featured the most. Blacks specifically African Americans are the most outspoken minority and politically they dominate other minorities as the largest non-white ethnic minority (Hispanics include several nationalities that are smaller than AA), Hispanics also have low voter turnout.
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Old 12-28-2017, 05:55 PM
 
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Because SJWs will collectively screech racism, pull their hair out, hold their breath, throw themselves on the floor or some other equally inane temper tantrum.
The ones you know actually do this?
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Old 12-28-2017, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Only white supremacists and those that sympathize with white supremacy have a problem with minorities being in media.

It sounds like some people here might be one with Richard Spencer...
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Old 12-28-2017, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Texas
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In the western world (which is mostly white) there is a lot of flack for not being "diverse" enough, not having enough non-white characters, lots of flack for beauty standards based off white people etc. etc. Given that depending on what western country you are talking about white people can make up the decent to good majority of people, so why is it somehow inherently bad that white people are portrayed the most in most aspects of society?

Do you think it's bad that if you went to Japan and looked at all their media/film the vast majority of actors are Asian? Or that if you look at their beauty magazines the vast majority are of Asian women? Same for countries like China, Korea etc. Same deal if you go to Africa, pretty sure the vast majority portrayed will be African. Or take India and Bollywood, vast majority of actors are, of course, Indian.

So to me it's just seems ridiculous when non-white people living in predominantly white countries say stuff like "Most of those you see in TV/Movies are white" "Beauty standards have been based off white women" "White people make up the majority of x" etc. etc. etc. Yeah, so? It kind of makes sense all of that will be based off of whoever makes up the majority if not the vast majority of people. That goes for whatever country. Yet apparently only white/western countries get lots of flack for it. Another way to look at it is that I am a woman and a big gamer yet understand why most video games are made for and marketed towards men. So do you think there is something wrong with it? If so, should we not be complaining big time to Japan and China, Korea etc. that they don't advertise a lot more African, Indian and Middle Eastern women? Or even white women for that matter?
Just because you see a person of (darker) color on more commercials, you don't have to complain about it. Y'all still are in the majority of commercials.
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