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Incorrect. You were given an answer.
Remedial? = ad hominem fallacy
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Yes they are.
Telling us what others are thinking again.
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You have no argument.
Straight out of WK playbook.
Incapable of an intelligent response, so then claim the other poster has no argument.
Trump is the President and Commander in Chief and top law enforcer. He ran on bringing law and order back to our nation after years of obama having people under him look the other way when it came to illegal aliens. Sadly many illegal aliens have come from Mexico, Central and South America so that makes them Latino.
The chant of Trump Trump Trump is not so much racist but it is used as a reminder that if you over stayed your visa or snuck into the country you are in fact breaking the law and you should be worried that you might be arrested and sent back.
It is not racism it is enforcing existing laws that we have in place for a reason.
A reminder to whom?
Do illegals have a tattoo on their forehead to let people know their status? How do you know they need a reminder? Because they’re Latino?
Doing that just makes you an ignorant jack*** at best.
What possible reason could a bunch of (mostly white) students have to chant "Trump!" or "Build that wall!" to students that are mostly Hispanic? What other time has this occurred with another race/ethnicity?
A straight answer, for once, would be nice.
The chant(s) is meant to be offensive, mean, hateful, etc, at the very least, and how much further than that (whether they are bigots, etc.), we don't know.
But only the dense/ignorant would deny the former.
Once again, one-third of Hispanics voted for Trump. All they all self-hating intra-racists? What's missing in these stories is the possibility that certain areas of town area KNOWN to be flooded with illegal aliens. Yes they happen to be Hispanic areas since that's a border country, but you don't think any Hispanics live in the school district that chanted Trump? Particularly in Texas, which is one of the stories you linked to, there are many cities and neighborhoods where Hispanics have the plurality or majority but they're citizens and actually despise Hispanic illegal aliens. You are completely ignoring this, and the lazy journalists who cover such topics will never explore this angle. The open borders activists have conflated being Hispanic with being an illegal alien, when truthfully in a place like Texas they would never chant this in districts where the Hispanic population is mostly citizens or legal residents. You all act like that group doesn't exist.
You don't know the meaning of the word hate if you think enforcing immigration policy--which is what separates Trump from the pack--is hateful. Throwing acid on women seeking a divorce is hateful. Firebombing a church is hateful. The mass slaughter of ethnic or religious groups different from your own is hateful. I refuse to let you insult real victims of hate and reject your flimsy definition.
What possible reason could a bunch of (mostly white) students have to chant "Trump!" or "Build that wall!" to students that are mostly Hispanic? What other time has this occurred with another race/ethnicity?
A straight answer, for once, would be nice.
The chant(s) is meant to be offensive, mean, hateful, etc, at the very least, and how much further than that (whether they are bigots, etc.), we don't know.
But only the dense/ignorant would deny the former.
Guess what--lots of districts in the Southwest are 90% Hispanic but they're Americans or legal residents. Did it ever occur to you that locals know this particular area is a haven for illegal aliens?
Once again, one-third of Hispanics voted for Trump. All they all self-hating intra-racists?
Point missed.
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Originally Posted by Kaphawoman
What's missing in these stories is the possibility that certain areas of town area KNOWN to be flooded with illegal aliens. Yes they happen to be Hispanic areas since that's a border country, but you don't think any Hispanics live in the school district that chanted Trump? Particularly in Texas, which is one of the stories you linked to, there are many cities and neighborhoods where Hispanics have the plurality or majority but they're citizens and actually despise Hispanic illegal aliens.
And you are, again, completely missing the point.
In the story I linked, the town chanting at the students is NW of Dallas, so you're think these students thought about the possibility of illegal immigrants in a town almost 600 miles away? They're familiar with areas of a town...almost 600 miles away? Now you're just being obtuse.
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Originally Posted by Kaphawoman
You are completely ignoring this, and the lazy journalists who cover such topics will never explore this angle. The open borders activists have conflated being Hispanic with being an illegal alien, when truthfully in a place like Texas they would never chant this in districts where the Hispanic population is mostly citizens or legal residents. You all act like that group doesn't exist.
I'm not sure what it is about the argument that is so confusing.
No one is pro-illegal. I know that's the usual response when one has a terrible argument.
It's what they're doing, not why they're doing it and who they're specifically doing it to. Directing any chants towards someone because of their appearance is ignorant at best.
As far as the bold goes, that's a joke. This point has been talked about numerous times. The majority of the time we see the "usual suspects" confronting someone for not speaking English is when it's a brown person.
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"It is easier being illegal here when you're white," Shauna, an undocumented Irish immigrant, tells CNN. "It's not easy, of course, you have that paranoia but there isn't the racial element. It's a bit easier to stay under the radar."
Care to explain that?
And go ahead and keep focusing on just those brown people, meanwhile letting the corporate executives/business owners/contractors/etc., who continually give them the opportunities that cause them to come here in the first place, off the hook.
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You don't know the meaning of the word hate if you think enforcing immigration policy--which is what separates Trump from the pack--is hateful. Throwing acid on women seeking a divorce is hateful. Firebombing a church is hateful. The mass slaughter of ethnic or religious groups different from your own is hateful. I refuse to let you insult real victims of hate and reject your flimsy definition.
Spare me the theatrics. What might not be hateful to you, may be hateful to someone who is assumed to be an illegal because of their skin tone.
But on the topic of hate, hate is also this:
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A black student at Baylor said she was shoved by a white male while walking to class on the morning after the election. Her assailant, a fellow student, told her “no n—-s allowed on the sidewalk,” she said — then echoed Trump’s campaign slogan, declaring: “I’m just trying to make America great again.”
But I'm sure there's an excuse for that, too.
Lord knows if someone walked up to a group of Trump supporters and called them all racist, you all would be stop playing dumb and start screeching about how unfair and wrong it is to assume and stereotype.
Guess what--lots of districts in the Southwest are 90% Hispanic but they're Americans or legal residents. Did it ever occur to you that locals know this particular area is a haven for illegal aliens?
Did it ever occur to you that:
A) the students doing the chant live almost 600 miles away
B) you can't differentiate an illegal alien from a citizen from appearance?
A) the students doing the chant live almost 600 miles away
B) you can't differentiate an illegal alien from a citizen from appearance?
LOL! You think 600 miles--esp. in a state as large as Texas--means it's impossible to find out the reputation and demographics of the opposing team's district? Now you're the one being obtuse. When I was in high school teams found dirt on their opponents all the time and that was before Google.
There you go again assuming all Hispanics = illegal alien. As I said before, there are tons of areas in Texas where Hispanic citizens and legal residents have a plurality or majority, and they despise illegals even Hispanic ones. Even in California, a few decades ago, Hispanic Americans (incl. farmworker activist Cesar Chavez) referred to illegal aliens from Mexico by the w-word slur because they were upset about jobs being taken and wages undercut. Is there proof that NO Hispanic students in the crowd chanted Trump (since he won 1/3 of their vote), and this chant was used ONLY against majority Hispanic teams EVERY time, including middle and upper class Hispanic districts with very few illegals? Nope. Without proving those, you can't make assumptions behind the reason for it.
Who said anything about appearance? It's not appearance of people in a neighborhood but the poverty, overcrowding, lack of English fluency, gangs with international connections, storefronts with immigration lawyers, day laborers and others looking for cash/under-the-table jobs, crime rings where fake SSN and naturalization papers are popular, etc. None of this is hard to figure out! How convenient of you to totally miss this point.
Btw, a quote form a single Irish person to CNN that it's easier to be a white illegal alien is totally irrelevant to this story. Of course it's easier to blend in when you look like the majority around you. An illegal alien from China would say it's easier being an illegal Asian in Orange County, CA than somewhere in Wyoming. An illegal alien from Mexico would say it's easier here in LA than in Birmingham, Alabama. What does her statement have to do with Trump? Nothing.
Also, I doubt anyone who actually went through the hateful acts I mentioned--firebombing, acid attacks, genocide--would say mentioning those is theatrics. Sorry if your illegal alien bros come up short in the pain Olympics when compared to REAL victims of hate. Better learn now that people are tired of that word being tossed around. If you get this bent out of shape of teenagers just SAYING our president's name, you're not just practicing theatrics--you're earning a PhD in it.
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