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Old 10-13-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22 View Post
Trump's government regulations are costing the taxpayer $12 billion to bail out these farmers, almost NINE TIMES what he claims his cutting regulations has saved taxpayers ($1.3 billion.)

They are now reaping what they've sown.
If they all vote Republican next month, then they all deserve to go bankrupt.

But you watch, all these flyover states that saddled us with the Moron-in-Chief will continue to vote for the party that destroyed their livelihood. Then they'll have their hands out looking for more taxpayer money because they are not smart enough to vote for their own best interests.

Lots of family farms will go under because of Trump, but the stupid fools will continue to vote for their own demise. Because you can't fix stupid.

I'd be fine letting them all go down.

 
Old 10-13-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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If they all vote Republican next month, then they all deserve to go bankrupt.

But you watch, all these flyover states that saddled us with the Moron-in-Chief will continue to vote for the party that destroyed their livelihood. Then they'll have their hands out looking for more taxpayer money because they are not smart enough to vote for their own best interests.

Lots of family farms will go under because of Trump, but the stupid fools will continue to vote for their own demise. Because you can't fix stupid.

I'd be fine letting them all go down.
The return of Dr. Paul Bearer ? It a classic just like the funny farm of old.

We will package this and call it the democrat's economic platform. No solutions that work only hate.
 
Old 10-13-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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Dead cat bounce.
So is it the Obama economy, or the Trump economy right now? Pick one, and stick with it.
 
Old 10-13-2018, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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So is it the Obama economy, or the Trump economy right now? Pick one, and stick with it.
It’s the Obama economy when the market is up, and Trump when it’s down. Ask Paul Krugman. He’ll explain it.
 
Old 10-13-2018, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It was Obama's economy through 2017 - UNTIL - 2018 dawned and Trump and Congress began to fix what wasn't broke with their overstimulative, unnecessary, irresponsible, benefit the rich, stock-buyback, no business investment, deficit-ballooning tax cuts ......

- made doubly worse by talk of and the imposition of tariffs - impact of which will get much worse in 2019 when 25% hits China

- causing businesses to drop expansion plans. thus impeding the hoped for revenue growth to offset the lost revenues/higher debt brought on by those sh*tty tax cuts. Congress KNEW it was at the edge of the abysss with that tax bill - they KNEW it. They were "hoping" for a miracle.

So, going forward, it's gonna get bad - and THAT is all on Trump.

For sure, 2019 - good and bad - BELONGS TO TRUMP - ALL OF IT.

And, I agree - Friday and probably Monday were/will be dead cat bounces. The market, for all practical purposes, is done. We'll be lucky to see a return to the October high by year-end.

Rising rates and deficits (thanks to sh*tty tax bill) not good for stocks or bonds.

In 2019, inflation bought on by overheating of economy due to irresponsible tax cuts and tariffs which raise cost of raw materials - further cementing Fed's determinationi to raise rates - will contribute to a business slowdown already seen in housing new construction and autos - tariffs/cost of materials the cause.

MAGA - he sure knows how to ruin a good thing. The market this year would have been wonderful had Congress and Trump done NOTHING.

Now, all manner of serious problems begin.
 
Old 10-13-2018, 08:43 PM
 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now we have heard from the fortune tellers and palm readers union. That's new !!!

Should have a tremendous impact on investors.

Only right here folks. We get-m all and then we decide for ourselves what to do. Like always.
 
Old 10-13-2018, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Pweese, pweese chicken littles, tell us more ...lol
 
Old 10-13-2018, 10:01 PM
 
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Why won't you democrats give me an answer? Is it the Obama economy or the Trump economy right now? Are you waiting to see what happens to the DJ before deciding?
 
Old 10-14-2018, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Why won't you democrats give me an answer? Is it the Obama economy or the Trump economy right now? Are you waiting to see what happens to the DJ before deciding?
Don't you read? Thought I made it pretty clear, here:
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22 View Post
It was Obama's economy through 2017 - UNTIL - 2018 dawned and Trump and Congress began to fix what wasn't broke with their overstimulative, unnecessary, irresponsible, benefit the rich, stock-buyback, no business investment, deficit-ballooning tax cuts ......

- made doubly worse by talk of and the imposition of tariffs - impact of which will get much worse in 2019 when 25% hits China

- causing businesses to drop expansion plans. thus impeding the hoped for revenue growth to offset the lost revenues/higher debt brought on by those sh*tty tax cuts. Congress KNEW it was at the edge of the abysss with that tax bill - they KNEW it. They were "hoping" for a miracle.

So, going forward, it's gonna get bad - and THAT is all on Trump.

For sure, 2019 - good and bad - BELONGS TO TRUMP - ALL OF IT.

And, I agree - Friday and probably Monday were/will be dead cat bounces. The market, for all practical purposes, is done. We'll be lucky to see a return to the October high by year-end.

Rising rates and deficits (thanks to sh*tty tax bill) not good for stocks or bonds.

In 2019, inflation bought on by overheating of economy due to irresponsible tax cuts and tariffs which raise cost of raw materials - further cementing Fed's determinationi to raise rates - will contribute to a business slowdown already seen in housing new construction and autos - tariffs/cost of materials the cause.

MAGA - he sure knows how to ruin a good thing. The market this year would have been wonderful had Congress and Trump done NOTHING.

Now, all manner of serious problems begin.
I'll happily give him 2018.

He and Congress have created this sugar high juiced up phony economy and ballooning deficits and tariff causing inflation - and soon to be farm failures, ultimate unemployment from the tariffs, and business retraction.

The mess beginning in early 2018 - and thereafter - is ALL ON HIM - starting with the irresponsible deficit producing tax cuts which every schooled economist and the FRB have said are a mistake..

Last edited by Ariadne22; 10-14-2018 at 01:39 AM..
 
Old 10-14-2018, 03:29 AM
 
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If they all vote Republican next month, then they all deserve to go bankrupt.

But you watch, all these flyover states that saddled us with the Moron-in-Chief will continue to vote for the party that destroyed their livelihood. Then they'll have their hands out looking for more taxpayer money because they are not smart enough to vote for their own best interests.

Lots of family farms will go under because of Trump, but the stupid fools will continue to vote for their own demise. Because you can't fix stupid.

I'd be fine letting them all go down.
Same people that voted to be uninsured rather than have healthcare. No surprise trump voters are more likely to be without a high school diploma
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