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Old 01-09-2018, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Does Trump already know who the snitcher is from INSIDE the Trump Team, that went to the FBI prior to Sept 2016 about the exact info that was in the dossier? But the Trump Team insider went to the FBI before the Dossier was released and before the FBI knew about the Dossier.

There's a turncoat that's INSIDE the Trump team. Does Trump know who it is? This is before Papadopolous.
the dossier was started in april of 16.,....when law firm Perkins Coie and head of its Political Law practice, hired Fusion GPS to do opposition research on Trump ....steele was hired in june .........Steele delivered his report as a series of two- or three-page memos, starting in June 2016


had asked Steele at one point during the summer of 2016 if he’d ever heard back from the FBI following that initial July meeting

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Old 01-09-2018, 05:25 PM
 
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That is what Grassley is arguing, yes.
Agreed

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I'm not sure I fully agree considering Fusion's CEO wanted it released and it was not classified information.
Who are we to decide what is classified or not?

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It'd be another thing if this were classified information or the person giving their testimony did not want their comments shared publicly.
If we don't know what the current investigation is doing or what they are investigation who can say what is really classified?

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I suppose we'll see how this affects things, but I think the impact is being overstated.
Well, lets hope the left did not just throw out the entire investigation, which if what the left says is there....it will or should....
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The big mystery: Who is the person from the Trump organization that went to the FBI about the same info that was in the Dossier, but they went to the FBI before the Dossier was made public and before the FBI was informed of the Dossier?

The GPS hearing info that was released today says it was someone in the Trump organization that told the FBI. But the term Trump organization seems to be a general word that was used and it might have meant from Trump's team generically. This could mean they worked at the Trump company or they were part of the Trump campaign, or both.

Whoever from Team Trump that went to the FBI with this info before July 2016.....Does Trump knows who it is? Did they get fired or quit?
Is the person is still part of the Trump WH or Trump organization.

Pence? For one, Pence stayed far far away from Wolff when lots of others were meeting with Wolff.

Priebus?

Bannon? In the Wolff book, Bannon was the main contributor and lots of the book is from Bannon's point of view. It's clear that Bannon purposely and methodically protected himself regarding Russia in discussions on the matter within the Wolff book. Almost like he knew all along to protect himself. Maybe he did know all along? Maybe he knew because Pribus was the leaker and he was close to Priebus.
I actually think it was former CIA Director James Woolsey was an adviser to Donald Trump’s campaign, who became aware of criminal contacts with Turkish representatives WITH Flynn back in summer of 2016. He knew what was discussed was criminal.. but didn't actually resign from campaign until early transition time. However, I do believe HE reported reported it to FBI back then.. and that was long long before Steele Dossier!!

Michael Flynn tried to pay fellow Donald Trump adviser to commit crime on U.S. soil on Turkey's behalf - Palmer Report

This all went down long before George Poppo ( Coffee Boy who then spilled the beans to Australian Ambassador) and it explains WHY Flynn plead out!! FBI ( prior to Mueller) knew all about collusion with foreign governments/ so this latest House GOP trying to dirty up Mueller appears on it's face as nothing other than Congressional "Conspiracy" to HIDE /treasonous behaviour by their Party leader!!

DJT and Family have been doing foreign financed "Money Laundering" for a VERY LONG TIME!! It's going to come back to haunt him and his Family too!! It also explains WHY DJT never disclosed his Tax returns and why IRS audited him constantly! Gravitational Forces brought all the Despicable types together into DJT's TEAM!!
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Yeah because those should just be public domain right? Sigh. No worries im sure we will get there.


When he starts saying that the dossier was confirming things that he believed the FBI already knew from the Trump campaign person who approached the FBI.


There is a significant difference between "here's some cash to investigate this guy", and "Heres a bunch of illegally obtained emails, and some truly impressive co-ordinated propaganda for you, could you change your policy on the Ukraine" for example.

Where do you get that bit of nonsense?

No they did not. Not even remotely. You are just making stuff up to try and distract.
- The FISA application has been released to Devin Nunes and the Congressional investigators. We'll see what they have to say about it.

- Again, where in this testimony does Simpson say the dossier was not used to aquire the FISA warrant?

- I don't see the difference between "Here's some cash for you Russian government agents to dig up some dirt on our political opponant for us" and "If you have dirt on our political opponant we'd love to see it".

- The Russian lawyer had been working for Fusion GPS. We know this factually.

- Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson met with the Russian lawyer immediately prior to and after the Donald Trump Jr. meeting. This also is a matter of fact.

You can pretend Fusion GPS didn't do this as a set up if you wish, but no one's buying it. Their employee set up the meeting & the company founder met with her before and after the meeting. What exactly would you call it, a coincidence?
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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That is what Grassley is arguing, yes.

I'm not sure I fully agree considering Fusion's CEO wanted it released and it was not classified information.

It'd be another thing if this were classified information or the person giving their testimony did not want their comments shared publicly.

I suppose we'll see how this affects things, but I think the impact is being overstated.
Did Grassley happen to say how it might undermine the investigation?

Because the Democrats, Fusion GPS, and apparently team Mueller aren't worried.
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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Fusion GPS are a pack of liars for hire. I'll wait and see what the House Intelligence Committee comes up with.
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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Who are we to decide what is classified or not?
You may not agree with Feinstein's political work, but she is not going to release classified material.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.f86f95d07a9e
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You can understand why the Republicans were furiously trying to suppress the transcript, which contains no classified information.

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If we don't know what the current investigation is doing or what they are investigation who can say what is really classified?
Because people involved in the investigation would say it was classified. Notice that Grassley is not upset because the material released was classified - you can bet your butt that would be something he would have been highlighting here.

He is upset that this might have undermined the investigation. That is a sensible argument and a valid concern (although I don't agree that it will have the large effect) - but it is not the same as being upset about the release of classified information.


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Well, lets hope the left did not just throw out the entire investigation, which if what the left says is there....it will or should....
Are you trying to claim that the investigation is not real and that it is an invention of the "left"? I'm not really following you here...
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:35 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Does Trump already know who the snitcher is from INSIDE the Trump Team, that went to the FBI prior to Sept 2016 about the exact info that was in the dossier? But the Trump Team insider went to the FBI before the Dossier was released and before the FBI knew about the Dossier.

There's a turncoat that's INSIDE the Trump team. Does Trump know who it is? This is before Papadopolous.
Why do you believe there was someone on the inside of the Trump team speaking to the FBI?
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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Did Grassley happen to say how it might undermine the investigation?

Because the Democrats, Fusion GPS, and apparently team Mueller aren't worried.
Except, you have no clue what team muller is investigating, yes?

dems and gps can only assume, unless yo know for a fact that muller is telling the dems and gps what they are investigating....until then, your dem senator may have just blown everything....
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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- The FISA application has been released to Devin Nunes and the Congressional investigators. We'll see what they have to say about it.

- Again, where in this testimony does Simpson say the dossier was not used to aquire the FISA warrant?

- I don't see the difference between "Here's some cash for you Russian government agents to dig up some dirt on our political opponant for us" and "If you have dirt on our political opponant we'd love to see it".

- The Russian lawyer had been working for Fusion GPS. We know this factually.

- Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson met with the Russian lawyer immediately prior to and after the Donald Trump Jr. meeting. This also is a matter of fact.

You can pretend Fusion GPS didn't do this as a set up if you wish, but no one's buying it. Their employee set up the meeting & the company founder met with her before and after the meeting. What exactly would you call it, a coincidence?
Fake News.
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