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And, why didn't they happen until Trump was President then? Planned is one thing. Actuality is another. Many things are planned years in advance, waiting for the right circumstances to put those pans into action.
If Obama was so great, why didn't these things happen during his administration? I'll give you one reason: High taxes.
Auto manufacturers have been coming here for decades, you just didn't notice. These things are planned years in advance.
I thought you disliked globalists.
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The decision to move to Atlanta was part of a 50-year decision Mercedes made for the plant moving forward. Moran said that 50-year plan not only involves the new corporate headquarters but also Vance's manufacturing facility.
Automation requires employees who have the skills and training to operate and troubleshoot equipment using computers.
Operating and troubleshooting are two different skill sets. Technicians troubleshoot. Operators operate. And programmers program those computer controlled machines (which, by the way, have been around for many years).
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Manufacturers report that they already have difficulty finding skilled employees.
This is pure bull. Can you cite some credible sources? Skilled employees have been laid off, replaced by foreign workers, who had to be trained by those they were replacing!
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Cutting funding for training is shooting ourselves in the foot.
Why should the government be funding training? That isn't the job of the government! Yes, I had some Navy training in electronics, because I was in the Navy, and they needed electronic technicians. When I got out of the Navy, I took additional electronics training at a technical school. It was a private school, not a government school.
We have colleges and technical schools. That's where the training happens. There is no shortage of people who desire to enter the technical fields.
I remember Republicans blocking those infrastructure proposals.
Can you give some examples, or is this just political rhetoric; i.e., B.S.? What "infrastructure proposals" did the Republicans block. I seem to recall it was the Democrats who blocked the Keystone XL Pipeline, which was a "shovel ready" project
He refused to build a border wall, which had already been authorized by Congress, and a project he was for as a Senator, before he was against it as President. Another "shovel ready" job.
But Obama threw away billions of dollars on stupid "programs" like "renewable energy" (Solyndra) and "Cash for Clunkers" (which only served to create a shortage of good used cars and drive up the price).
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Can you give some examples, or is this just political rhetoric; i.e., B.S.? What "infrastructure proposals" did the Republicans block. I seem to recall it was the Democrats who blocked the Keystone XL Pipeline, which was a "shovel ready" project
Operating and troubleshooting are two different skill sets. Technicians troubleshoot. Operators operate. And programmers program those computer controlled machines (which, by the way, have been around for many years).
This is pure bull. Can you cite some credible sources? Skilled employees have been laid off, replaced by foreign workers, who had to be trained by those they were replacing!
Why should the government be funding training? That isn't the job of the government! Yes, I had some Navy training in electronics, because I was in the Navy, and they needed electronic technicians. When I got out of the Navy, I took additional electronics training at a technical school. It was a private school, not a government school.
We have colleges and technical schools. That's where the training happens. There is no shortage of people who desire to enter the technical fields.
Another Nonsense post. Always good for a laugh.
As to the same person being able to do all sorts of various jobs, who wrote that? Reading comprehension is your friend.
Do your own research. If you are so clueless that you haven't read a thing about how manufacturing companies have been complaining they can't find people with the skills and training they require, then a few links from me isn't going to help any.
So you got your electronics training courtesy of the government in the Navy. Good for you.
Few companies are willing to provide that training.
Tell those laid off coal miners, those factory workers who are unemployed due to automation, ... they need to pony up or borrow the thousands of dollars needed to attend private tech schools.
The benefit to our nation of having citizens with the skills and training needed for employment in the current economy are so obvious, I'm surprised it has to be pointed out.
Did you read why they opposed it? A tax "surcharge" on the "wealthy" and it was too costly. Ben Nelson -D, and Joe Lieberman -D, also opposed it. The Democrats then killed a competing GOP infrastructure bill that would have been paid for by cuts in other unspent funding.
This bill would have increased taxes on business. The Republicans rejected it on that basis. Job killing taxes on businesses are not the right way to fund infrastructure projects, especially during times of high unemployment. The Republicans objected to Sanders method of funding the proposal, and dictating tax policy.
While "high speed rail" sounds nice, the fact of the matter is that passenger rail was driven out of business many years ago by air travel, and that was long before we had jumbo jets. Air travel provides better and faster transportation, and is far safer than rail. It also requires no right-of-way (purchase of land ...or the taking of land ...from private individuals).
Rail service has been a non-profit making enterprise for decades. Amtrak is subsidized by the government. Why do we think high-speed rail would be profitable? Who would it benefit? Why take a train when you can fly? If high-speed rail was thought to be a money making project, the railroads, not the government, would be building it.
Exactly. And many were still shovel ready when Obama left office. Now that he's gone, those plans can be brought to fruition.
This thread is about American jobs and the automotive industry, and it can be argued that Obama saved America's automotive industry.
"The former CEO of the super-sized used car dealership CarMax, Austin Ligon, said (Obama's) decisive action to restructure General Motors and Chrysler "helped prevent a domino effect that would have taken down everything in the auto industry, from the factories that manufactured auto parts to the dealers who sold the cars." Did President Obama save the auto industry? | PolitiFact
It's another blow to the unionized auto industry. From the article,
"The state's factories are also not unionized — a factor that seems to appeal to foreign automakers."
There is something about the UAW and maybe American unions in general that makes manufacturers avoid them. American collective bargaining has to be changed to bring it into line with practices in other countries.
These Southern auto plants have transformed their host cities. Sleepy backwoods communities have been transformed into modern communities with amenities that are better than those of most similar sized ones elsewhere.
Former powerhouses like (the usual ones) should study these cities and emulate them. That's the only way they'll ever come back.
Did you read why they opposed it? A tax "surcharge" on the "wealthy" and it was too costly. Ben Nelson -D, and Joe Lieberman -D, also opposed it. The Democrats then killed a competing GOP infrastructure bill that would have been paid for by cuts in other unspent funding.
This bill would have increased taxes on business. The Republicans rejected it on that basis. Job killing taxes on businesses are not the right way to fund infrastructure projects, especially during times of high unemployment. The Republicans objected to Sanders method of funding the proposal, and dictating tax policy.
While "high speed rail" sounds nice, the fact of the matter is that passenger rail was driven out of business many years ago by air travel, and that was long before we had jumbo jets. Air travel provides better and faster transportation, and is far safer than rail. It also requires no right-of-way (purchase of land ...or the taking of land ...from private individuals).
Rail service has been a non-profit making enterprise for decades. Amtrak is subsidized by the government. Why do we think high-speed rail would be profitable? Who would it benefit? Why take a train when you can fly? If high-speed rail was thought to be a money making project, the railroads, not the government, would be building it.
We don't want to fund "make work" projects.
Nice try.
It was a great try. There are many more examples of the Party of No rejecting ANY type of infrastructure plan. Of course they will have a million reasons for it. They had the majority and they had the means to make any of Obama's infrastructure plans suit them...and yet they didn't. They were determined, at any cost, to make sure Obama never got a plan through. You claimed that there were no plans and that they GOP didn't obstruct any to boot. You were incorrect. The reasons why the voted NO were varied and typical. There would have always been something. But we all know that it was just going to be NO. Period. Obstructionists at the cost of the country's infrastructure.
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