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Old 01-10-2018, 09:47 PM
 
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I think that instead of going after the kids who were raised on our educational system, welfare and medicare systems, I think we should go after the administrations that would permitted them to enroll into schools, welfare and medicare programs. It never would have gotten this far if people back then were doing their jobs the right way and not taking bribery money. Bribery is actually a federal offence.
That was the the Supreme Court of tyrants, actually. Plyler vs. Doe (1982). They ruled that to bar illegals from the schools violates the 14th Amendment.


It's amazing, these tyrants, they can see "rights" to abortion, illegal immigrant education, same-sex "marriage", etc in the the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution but have trouble finding a right to bear arms in the 2nd Amendment.

What's even more amazing is that we still let them get away with it.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:21 PM
 
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can someone explain how a President doesn't have the right to overturn an Executive Order?
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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We can do something about this by reining in DC: www.conventionofstates.com. We already have 12 states on board. Hopefully we can get to 34 or close before the primaries. I sense more betrayal of their base by the GOP in DC coming up.
Thank you I support convention of the states. I see a few more getting on board in the future. Do you watch One American News? I suggest you go watch the graham ledger show on there. He talks about convention of the states all the time. Its a great show.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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can someone explain how a President doesn't have the right to overturn an Executive Order?
They do have a right. Its just another liberal judge trying to buy time for the illegals. Even obozo said it was un-constiutional .
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:51 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The DACAns beef should be with their parents for putting them in this position. They are illegals.
A very important point.

the 6-month-old baby being carried across the border by his parents can't really be considered guilty of crossing the border without a visa, even though technically that's what he did. But his parents can be, since they were adults in full knowledge that what they were doing was illegal.

They are even guilty of multiple counts: Not only did they bring themselves across the border, but they brought someone else too: The baby. That's not the baby's fault, but it certainly is theirs.
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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A very important point.

the 6-month-old baby being carried across the border by his parents can't really be considered guilty of crossing the border without a visa, even though technically that's what he did. But his parents can be, since they were adults in full knowledge that what they were doing was illegal.

They are even guilty of multiple counts: Not only did they bring themselves across the border, but they brought someone else too: The baby. That's not the baby's fault, but it certainly is theirs.

And that's precisely why I don't want the DACAs to benefit from it. No one should benefit from their parent's law breaking.
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Old 01-12-2018, 02:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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A modest suggestion:
A guy who was 6 months old when his parents carried him across the border illegally, is now 20 years old and working for a construction company. Should he be punished for stealing 20 years in the US, which technically he did?

I say No.

OK, Charlie, your first 20 years living illegally in a much better country, the United States, are on the house. No punishment. That's a lot more benefit than people who obeyed the law and didn't cross the border 20 years ago, will get.

You're still here illegally, so NOW back you go. No charge for the 20 years free and clear in the U.S. You can apply for a visa just like everyone else who wants to come here, does. Your illegal residence will NOT be held against you, unlike people who deliberately violated US law and walked across the border (or overstayed a visa) as adults. You will be approved just as quickly as people who never violated US law, even though you have 20 years in the US that they never got.

The deportation bus leaves at noon. Be on it, or else the above 20-year amnesty is cancelled.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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We need to implement the death penalty for these meddling judges that habitually engage in acts of judicial terrorism and malfeasance. Any judge that oversteps his authority ought to be subjected to it. I bet they would shape up and fly straight PDQ.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:17 PM
 
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These DACA people broke the law. US law says they should be deported. Of course, some were babes in their mothers' arms when they were brought across the border, and should hardly be punished for acts they had no control or responsibility for at the time.

A modest suggestion:
A guy who was 6 months old when his parents carried him across the border illegally, is now 20 years old and working for a construction company. Should he be punished for stealing 20 years in the US, which technically he did?

I say No.

OK, Charlie, your first 20 years living illegally in a much better country, the United States, are on the house. No punishment. That's a lot more benefit than people who obeyed the law and didn't cross the border 20 years ago, will get.

You're still here illegally, so NOW back you go. No charge for the 20 years free and clear in the U.S. You can apply for a visa just like everyone else who wants to come here, does. Your illegal residence will NOT be held against you, unlike people who deliberately violated US law and walked across the border (or overstayed a visa) as adults. You will be approved just as quickly as people who never violated US law, even though you have 20 years in the US that they never got.

The deportation bus leaves at noon. Be on it, or else the above 20-year amnesty is cancelled.
Agreed, but no re-entry. We send them back to the country where they actually are citizens. We cancel all foreign aid - and the better people that we send back...thats our foreign aid. We educated, housed, and fed your citizen, and now they are better off and have more human capital than they would have, had they remained in your country. So YOURE WELCOME.

LOL.

That's how it should be done.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Everybody should be angry about activist judges, regardless of party. But they're not.

This judge IS an activist judge with a political agenda. He tried this crap before and even submitted his own brief to the SCOTUS. What judge does that? He lost, too, 9-0.

And he's going to lose again.
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