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Old 01-10-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-miami-n836121

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami

by Cynthia McFadden, Sarah Fitzpatrick, Tracy Connor and Anna R. Schecter
Jan 10 2018, 10:38 am ET
MIAMI — Lured by the charm of little Havana or the glamour of South Beach, some 15 million tourists visit Miami every year.

But for a growing number of Russian women, the draw isn't sunny beaches or pulsing nightclubs. It's U.S. citizenship for their newborn children.

In Moscow, it's a status symbol to have a Miami-born baby, and social media is full of Russian women boasting of their little americantsy.

"It's really common," said Ekaterina Kuznetsova, 29. "When I was taking the plane to come here, it was not only me. It was four or five women flying here."

Ekaterina was one of dozens of Russian birth tourists NBC News spoke to over the past four months about a round-trip journey that costs tens of thousands of dollars and takes them away from home for weeks or months.

Why do they come?

"American passport is a big plus for the baby. Why not?" Olesia Reshetova, 31, told NBC News.

"And the doctors, the level of education," Kuznetsova added.

The weather doesn't hurt, either.

"It's a very comfortable place for staying in wintertime," Oleysa Suhareva said.

Image: Oleysa Suhareva traveled from Russia to Miami to give birth.
Oleysa Suhareva traveled from Russia to Miami to give birth. Courtesy Oleysa Suhareva
It's not just the Russians who are coming. Chinese moms-to-be have been flocking to Southern California to give birth for years.

What they are doing is completely legal, as long as they don't lie on any immigration or insurance paperwork. In fact, it's protected by the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which says anyone born on American soil is automatically a citizen.

The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card.

As president, Donald Trump has indicated he is opposed to so-called chain migration, which gives U.S. citizens the right to sponsor relatives, because of recent terror attacks. And as a candidate, he called for an end to birthright citizenship, declaring it in one of his first policy papers the "biggest magnet for illegal immigration."

"You have to get rid of it," he said on "Meet the Press" on NBC. "They're having a baby and all of a sudden — nobody knows — the baby is here. You have no choice."

In a twist, as the Daily Beast first reported, condo buildings that bear the Trump name are the most popular for the out-of-town obstetric patients, although the units are subleased from the individual owners and it's not clear if building management is aware.

There is no indication that Trump or the Trump Organization is profiting directly from birth tourism; the company and the White House did not respond to requests for comment.

Roman Bokeria, the state director of the Florida Association of Realtors told NBC News that Trump- branded buildings in the Sunny Isles Beach area north of Miami are particularly popular with the Russian birth tourists and Russian immigrants.

"Sunny Isles beach has a nickname — Little Russia — because people who are moving from Russian-speaking countries to America, they want … a familiar environment."

"They go across the street, they have Russian market, Russian doctor, Russian lawyer," he added. "It's very comfortable for them."
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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Birthright citizenship should have been removed a few decades ago.

Definitely an amendment that needs repealing.
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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Birthright citizenship should have been removed a few decades ago.

Definitely an amendment that needs repealing.
Nope - then we shouldn’t be here - someone crossed a border for us to be here
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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Nope - then we shouldn’t be here - someone crossed a border for us to be here
By your argument, we shouldn’t enforce our borders at all and anyone who comes here becomes a citizen if they want.

Not surprising that you’d feel that way.
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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I don’t think that anyone on a visitors visa or temporary visa of any type should benefit from birth tourism.
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:28 PM
 
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Try to stop it. You will be deemed bigoted racist. Maybe not in this case but...
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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Try to stop it. You will be deemed bigoted racist. Maybe not in this case but...
TRust me, it will immediately become “You don’t really care about the Russians who do it, your real goal is to stop Hispanics from becoming citizens.”
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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This is on the Miami forum, but my take is I am against birthright citizenship.

At that, this is an NBC investigation, so I take it with a grain of salt.

They did not provide any hard numbers, nor did they state the numbers of those with permanent residency and tourist visas.

Living here in Miami, I do not think this is even in the top 10 issues regarding immigration.

The solution is simple though; stop issuing visas to pregnant women, deny pregnant women entry into the US.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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The solution to all of this is to require at least one parent to be American for citizenship to convey.

Watch "birth tourism" and border crossings drop like a rock, along with the number of kids born in this country on Medicaid.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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Birthright citizenship should have been removed a few decades ago.

Definitely an amendment that needs repealing.

YEP! Well, sort of. Every person born here is a birthright citizen. There should be a stipulation mandating that one of the parents must already be a US citizen. So no repealing, just an edit.

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The solution to all of this is to require at least one parent to be American for citizenship to convey.

Watch "birth tourism" and border crossings drop like a rock, along with the number of kids born in this country on Medicaid.
Great Minds! I just looked up :P
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