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Old 01-19-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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The woodstove regulation was largely mischaracterized by the media. It did not ban woodstoves. It updated standards for woodstoves made in the future.


https://www.mediamatters.org/researc...-cut-wo/203667
What, Alex Jones lied for the sake of sensationalism? Why, I do declare...
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Old 01-19-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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Dems are wanting to turn the US into a s***hole country
Yes because clean air and clean water are bad things.

The Crab and Oyster population of Chesapeake Bay was almost wiped out from pollution and chemicals. Try visiting someplace with lax rules or even look at the pictures of the US NE Beaches when NYC was dumping trash offshore. Yea those damn Democrats just makin life hard for the polluters.
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Old 01-19-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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That Forbes article was an opinion piece with nothing to back it up - in other words, pure right wing propaganda. Out here in the "wilderness" called the Western US, plenty of people use wood or pellet stoves to keep warm in the winter. I've used wood burning stoves the better part of my life and no one from the gubberment has ever raided my home or anyone else's to confiscate my wood burner and haul me off to jail. Depending upon a town's topography some areas can end up with winter time inversion layers which can keep all the particulates from wood burning stoves close in to the ground producing a smoggy effect. Certain towns like Taos and Santa Fe, NM or Durango, CO have local ordinances calling for more efficient wood burning stoves to deal with this problem. When it comes to wood burning stoves and global warming - that's a joke. As usual, on a slow news days the right will make up stories if they have nothing else better to do.
I lived in both AZ and NM and used a fireplace in both areas. Other than on "no burn days" due to the inversion you mentioned, burning wood in a fireplace or stove was very common.

This reminds me very much of the right wing uproar about light bulbs.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:01 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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I have to question the motive and sanity of these people.

The EPA has banned the production and sale of 80 percent of America’s current wood-burning stoves, the oldest heating method known to mankind and mainstay of rural homes and many of our nation’s poorest residents. The agency’s stringent one-size-fits-all rules apply equally to heavily air-polluted cities and far cleaner plus typically colder off-grid wilderness areas such as large regions of Alaska and the American West.

They even have the EPA forcing it upon the liberties of people to stay warm.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybe.../#2f8101e97ee0

Is this going too far?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25OsRVc7e0
I can't wait for you to post a video of Alex Jones exploding from his rage just like Spinal Tap's drummers.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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I can't wait for you to post a video of Alex Jones exploding from his rage just like Spinal Tap's drummers.
I just wish his appeal would become more selective. I can't believe the number of people that actually fall for his BS and vote based on stupid crap like the OP posted.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I always have and will continue to burn wood or coal for heat.

All these warming advocates can then pay my heating bill if they get their way. I can also burn used motor oil for heat.
Can you ever be on the right side of things? Wood and coal are among the most expensive ways to get heat. Radiators or natural gas furnaces are significantly cheaper.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I have to question the motive and sanity of these people.

The EPA has banned the production and sale of 80 percent of America’s current wood-burning stoves, the oldest heating method known to mankind and mainstay of rural homes and many of our nation’s poorest residents. The agency’s stringent one-size-fits-all rules apply equally to heavily air-polluted cities and far cleaner plus typically colder off-grid wilderness areas such as large regions of Alaska and the American West.

They even have the EPA forcing it upon the liberties of people to stay warm.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybe.../#2f8101e97ee0

Is this going too far?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25OsRVc7e0
Should ban forest fires, too. They are destructive as hell.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:10 PM
 
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They won't let people collect rainwater.

They won't let people grow food in their yards.

They won't let people stay warm in the winter.

All these things make people self sufficient.

Self sufficiency is the enemy of govt.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Hey, Alexa? What threads should I start on CD today?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Q72qYWxKQ
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I hate to tell you this - but both states and the feds have been pushing for stricter regs on wood stoves since the 70s. If any of you had actually used wood to heat your home in the past 40 years, you'd know this.
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