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In the age of Trump the Christian Right is emboldened and is becoming more and more open about what their true intentions are. David Barton is highly respected in conservative Republican circles and has a great deal of influence over the platform of the GOP and the conservative worldview. The idea of society "fearing" the church simply sounds unAmerican and more like something you would expect in the Muslim world.
And by the way, what church? If we are going to have a theocracy which church gets to set public policy? Barton likely thinks it will be the Baptist church but that might not be the case.
In the age of Trump the Christian Right is emboldened and is becoming more and more open about what their true intentions are. David Barton is highly respected in conservative Republican circles and has a great deal of influence over the platform of the GOP and the conservative worldview. The idea of society "fearing" the church simply sounds unAmerican and more like something you would expect in the Muslim world.
And by the way, what church? If we are going to have a theocracy which church gets to set public policy? Barton likely thinks it will be the Baptist church but that might not be the case.
Do you agree with Mr. Gonzales and David Barton?
I find it odd that this comes out after Trump attacks the Johnson amendment.
Our constitution requires church and state to be separate. Religious individuals already have every right to run for office, and every right to proclaim their own religious convictions before the world and even during a campaign. Pastors already encourage members of their flocks to become politically involved.
No religious group has the right to systematically reshape our democracy into a theocracy. It would be an attack on the republic and against the constitution crafted by our founders.
Sounds like a bit of sensationalism, not yet sure if there is anything here to be concerned about.
At one point, Barton interviewed Mark Gonzales of the U.S. Hispanic Action Network, who said that politicians must be made to fear the power of the church and that churches must prepare conservative Christians to run for office in order to spread the correct “biblical values” over the states and eventually the entire nation.
“There are two things that are missing in society,” Gonzales said. “The fear of the Lord and the fear of the church. The fear of the Lord, that is prayer. The fear of the church, that is political. Let’s just be real about it.”
Is this what you are afraid of?
Don't worry about it.
We can barely say Merry Christmas in this country anymore. You don't have to worry about the church taking over.
Besides, that's not the intent of the church. We are not to be some political juggernaut. Some of His disciples wanted that, but Jesus did not allow that to happen. That's not to say that individual Christians can't serve in government - but as an organized effort, I don't think that's supposed to be the case.
In other words, I think the politicians expressing these desires are off base.
LMAO. Why do conservatives keep spewing this BS? Please provide links to any law in the US that prevents you from saying Merry Christmas. In fact you just said it, are the jackboots on the way?
The War on Christmas crap is so ridiculous. The scary thing is that more than a few morons actually believe this chit.
The War on Christmas is a perfect example of the kind of ignorance common on the right. Many of them will say stuff like "Obama banned Merry Christmas" despite the fact we have videos of him saying it every year. I am not sure what is sadder; the fact that conservatives actually believe there is a war on Christmas or the fact they are triggered if somebody wishes them a Happy Holidays.
In my opinion, ignorance and power are a very dangerous combination. That is what makes the Christian Right such a threat.
Right now is a good time to catalogue the crazy stuff from the far-right, since many of them feel emboldened by the Trump victory and are saying what the really think.
LMAO. Why do conservatives keep spewing this BS? Please provide links to any law in the US that prevents you from saying Merry Christmas. In fact you just said it, are the jackboots on the way?
The War on Christmas crap is so ridiculous. The scary thing is that more than a few morons actually believe this chit.
Sorry - C-D does not supply a smiley for hyperbole, or I would have used it.
There is resistance to Merry Christmas, but nothing legal. It is definitely not the main point here.
Right now is a good time to catalogue the crazy stuff from the far-right, since many of them feel emboldened by the Trump victory and are saying what the really think.
Good idea. I heard one talking today on tv - make abortion a criminal offense in all 50 states; put their God back in the church . . and so on and so forth.
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Evangelicals aren’t Christians. Discuss.
They are not. They crave political power above all else and, as such, have forsaken Jesus of the Bible for political power.
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