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You might be right there but still having a president who talking about protecting our borders and then hires illegals to work for him, IMO, it's a huge slap in the face to those who voted for him.
Sure.. but the premise of this thread was specific to DACA.
If putting the needs of Americans first is nativist then I don't know what to tell you. A nativist wouldn't want any immigrants here for any reason so you're confusing the issue.
No, my only concern is not just differentiating a DACA from a citizen. It's also about not rewarding them for their parent's law breaking and it sets a precidence that all you have to do is get your kids over our border illegally and they are home free. There are many other reasons also such as an unnatural and unlawful demographic transformation of our nation and these DACAs are of child bearing years. They and their offspring will more than likely vote Democrat also.
No more amnesties, since the last one we have at least quadruple the number of illegals here today. Enough is enough time to return to the rule of law. Having said all this I have no further need to discuss this with you. Love that ignore feature this forum has.
As Americans we all benefit from legal immigrants. Much of our brain trust comes from incoming immigrants. Much of our innovation is from immigrants. So legal immigration (again not open borders) is putting America first.
"Unlawful and demographic transformation"? This occurs with legal immigration as well. Interesting statement since you threw the racist accusation while using it here to your own stance.
DACA is a citizenship status... The only reason they would vote Democrat is because they are directly threatened. Give them a reason to vote Republican.
You are also confusing what you and are disagree on.
What I said is I would rather see some losers be removed from this country before DACA... Citizenship doesn't make them any less of a loser.
It's rampant in the construction industry. Educate yourself on this issue. Again, why are you only blaming the employers and not the illegals themselves? Did someone force them over the border to work here and no there is no excuse for it. They both need to be held accountable not just the employers.
No, it is not. But if you insist it is please provide reliable links to back up your claim.
They are not criminals. They are contributing members of society. You really need to do your research.
Making a blanket statement about Dreamers being "contributing members of society" is as silly and disingenuous as blanket statements about any other group.
Some are good... some are bad...some are in their 50's now.
They didn't break the law though. Their parents did.
Wrong. They violated Federal Law when they turned 18.5 and remained in the US illegally. They are just as much law-violating illegal aliens as their parents.
Take, for example, the 39 year-old man in Michigan. Brought to the US when he was 10, never applied to immigrate legally, and is a convicted drug dealer. Yet the idiots are whining that deporting him "breaks up his family."
Too bad. US Citizens who commit a crime and go to jail have their families broken up, too. Violating laws has consequences.
Making a blanket statement about Dreamers being "contributing members of society" is as silly and disingenuous as blanket statements about any other group.
Some are good... some are bad...some are in their 50's now.
While a blanket statements rarely holds water, the typical DACA recipient is educated, employed, has not committed a felony nor a repeated behavior of misdemeanors. There are also a quite a number of them serving in the military or have obtain honorable discharges. Something like 90-93% of of them are employed and the rest are most likely in school. These are all requirements to have been eligible for DACA.
I think most people would think they are at the very least good members if not contributing members of society if not for their citizenship status.
I do agree that the same canNOT be assumed or said for the wider illegal immigrant population.
Wrong. They violated Federal Law when they turned 18.5 and remained in the US illegally. They are just as much law-violating illegal aliens as their parents.
Wow, I just don't know how to answer some of you. When did we become such a bitter and self righteous society. This is not what our country is about. This is not what our country was founded on.
Wow, I just don't know how to answer some of you. When did we become such a bitter and self righteous society. This is not what our country is about. This is not what our country was founded on.
That sounds self-righteous of you... ironic... let’s not pretend you know what this country was founded on...
For every legal immigrant that comes into this country, there is potentially they would take that job from an American. Are we not a society for free market?
Most illegals are here to channel money back to their native country were a cost of living is lower and they are willing to work for cheap.. thus depressing wages. That I agree.
The difference is that DACA are educated here, their family is here, they have little connection to their native country. They are really no different from a 1st generation American born child of legal immigrants.
They are in fact VERY different. They are here illegally. Deport them. They can then apply to immigrate legally, if they so wish.
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