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Old 01-23-2018, 11:20 PM
 
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In a real world scenario this means women are making more money because they take more time to do the same amount of work?
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Oh now, I don't know about that. It is true that fewer women do go into math. I have 2 degrees in math and have met a couple of women who were absolutely first rate mathematicians. One went the actuary route and the other retired from a major university as a math professor.

Sorry, I think you are wrong on this.
How is it possible to have earned two degrees in a field built on logic yet still believe that anecdotes like this about "a couple of women" make for a strong argument in a discussion of patterns and trends?
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Old 01-24-2018, 12:21 AM
 
Location: 89434
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It's getting to a point where being female is considered a disability that needs special protections.
I thought leftists don't believe in biological gender?
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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How is it possible to have earned two degrees in a field built on logic yet still believe that anecdotes like this about "a couple of women" make for a strong argument in a discussion of patterns and trends?
It is just as valid as your prior posting that I responded to.

Few women go into math, that is true. But of those that do some are very, very good in it.

I really don't think that mathematical ability depends on gender. Either one has that ability or they don't.

Just my personal experience in math, doesn't matter to me what you think.
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:13 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I thought leftists don't believe in biological gender?
You thought wrong. It was a stupid thought. I hope you don't have them often, as I think you are smarter than that.
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Old 01-24-2018, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Maybe.

But it doesn't mean they have inferior skills in the real world, where someone isn't standing over them with a stopwatch.

I test way above my level of competence. Just because I'm an excellent test taker.

Doesn't make me more proficient in that field, though, vs. someone who tests poorly.
The issue isn't that Oxford extended it's finals exam times by 15 minutes that's a non-event. It's the stated reason for why they're extending those times. The perception it promotes is that women are less capable than men in those conditions, which reinforces gender stereotypes, rather than tearing them down.
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Old 01-24-2018, 05:23 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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The issue isn't that Oxford extended it's finals exam times by 15 minutes that's a non-event. It's the stated reason for why they're extending those times. The perception it promotes is that women are less capable than men in those conditions, which reinforces gender stereotypes, rather than tearing them down.
There may seriously be some hormonal issues. My understanding is that there is a greater complexity and cyclicality of female hormones, connected with menstrual periods.

That is not meant as a sexist remark.
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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The issue isn't that Oxford extended it's finals exam times by 15 minutes that's a non-event. It's the stated reason for why they're extending those times. The perception it promotes is that women are less capable than men in those conditions, which reinforces gender stereotypes, rather than tearing them down.
It was an experiment to see if it made any difference and it didn't. A non story.
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Old 01-24-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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It was an experiment to see if it made any difference and it didn't. A non story.
The action. Non-Story.

The reason for the action, and the perception of that reason big story. The issue is that Oxford wanted to wave their feminist credentials, but in doing so they made a very public statement that can be perceived as defamatory to the female gender. That's the big issue. If Oxford said "well we extended exams by 15 minutes to give our candidates a better chance of demonstrating their abilities." no story. They didn't which is why it is a story.
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Old 01-24-2018, 07:18 AM
 
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How many businesses don't have deadlines that must be met? Most people don't work for government and can take however long is required to get the job done.

In the real world 'good enough' that meets a required deadline is better than 'perfect' that never actually gets done.
You realize deadlines are normally in months or weeks, even years. Fifteen minutes is not going to make or break a deadline.
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