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Old 01-29-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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Someone gave property to you for free?
Haha, no. Not my fault you don't have an imagination to start a business without some serious money.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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You are stating facts not in evidence.
evidence?

what that working poor people do not get welfare?

Hey look, a poor person who doesn't take free money/help because they need the aid? and you think handing them $500 is going to help?

maybe the same working poor person who turns down welfare will hand back the $500?

if they were so prideful to turn down the current welfare, do you think they are going to take money from the program? Or if they take it, and once the program ends, they will be hooked on welfare money and apply for more welfare... great way to lead people into welfare
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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500 bucks ain't much to feed and house a family by itself.

If they're going to do a social experiment, then at least make it more real.
Exactly , add another zero and i'll sign up !!
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I thought Stockton was on the verge of bankruptcy? Guess not.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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Haha, no. Not my fault you don't have an imagination to start a business without some serious money.
I find it sad that you seem to only be able to discuss things by changing the discussion midway through.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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It's an interesting idea, guaranteed income is far cheaper than welfare because there is no need for an elaborate bureaucracy to manage it. In some states only 10% of welfare funds end up in the hands of recipients. One thing for sure, every penny given to a poor family quickly makes its way back into the economy, unlike money given to the top 1% who tend to hoard it.

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This is rich.

First of all, government entities produce nothing, so that "basic income" is redistributed from taxpayers to those on assistance. And whether something is cheaper is NOT the issue.


Also, I love the pejorative "hoarding." Try saving. Which, BTW, is something those who walk out of H&R Block annually with a $5-7K check (thanks to EITC) don't do--and should.

Give me a break.
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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evidence?

what that working poor people do not get welfare?

Hey look, a poor person who doesn't take free money/help because they need the aid? and you think handing them $500 is going to help?

maybe the same working poor person who turns down welfare will hand back the $500?

if they were so prideful to turn down the current welfare, do you think they are going to take money from the program? Or if they take it, and once the program ends, they will be hooked on welfare money and apply for more welfare... great way to lead people into welfare
The article doesn't state who will get the money. Hence, facts not in evidence.
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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I thought Stockton was on the verge of bankruptcy? Guess not.
Another person that didn't bother to read the article. A million dollars of someone else's money injected into their economy should be a good thing for the city. No?
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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The article doesn't state who will get the money. Hence, facts not in evidence.
which article? now you have me confused...

if it was the one about the UK, yes they were welfare recipients... the UK universal credit is a welfare system they used to replace other welfare programs with

if you mean stockton, then back to me saying, they are working poor. If they were not on welfare already, they wouldn't know what to do with the $500. So much for "smart" poor people, if they willingly not make use of the welfare programs they have access too. Welfare programs are there for people to use, it doesn't sit there collecting "interest" if no one uses them. The budgets are pre-set.

plus this stockton "news" isn't new, there were other articles on how they selected the people who will likely get the money. they were poor people
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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which article? now you have me confused...
You know what we are discussing.
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