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Old 01-31-2018, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1FI2RJ

Trump $1.7 trillion infrastructure plan in State of the Union speech - Business Insider

It's a great start that states and cities will get 20% federal funding for projects and the state, local government and private partners will come up with the rest.

I think it's the best infrastructure plan ever as states and local governments need to bring the private sector together to fund these projects and the 20% federal funding carrot is just enough to get big infrastructure projects going.

With the 4% unemployment rate and all the tax revenue it seems as though states and cities should have no issue paying for 80% of it.

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Glad to see that President Trump's plan with be revenue neutral also and fiscally responsible as the 200 billion will likely come from TIGER infrastructure grants that mainly fund special interest projects in metropolitan areas and Amtrak which mainly benefits the coasts.
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1FI2RJ

Trump $1.7 trillion infrastructure plan in State of the Union speech - Business Insider

It's a great start that states and cities will get 20% federal funding for projects and the state, local government and private partners will come up with the rest.

I think it's the best infrastructure plan ever as states and local governments need to bring the private sector together to fund these projects and the 20% federal funding carrot is just enough to get big infrastructure projects going.

With the 4% unemployment rate and all the tax revenue it seems as though states and cities should have no issue paying for 80% of it.

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Glad to see that President Trump's plan with be revenue neutral also and fiscally responsible as the 200 billion will likely come from TIGER infrastructure grants that mainly fund special interest projects in metropolitan areas and Amtrak which mainly benefits the coasts.


you do realize state and local governments don't have the funds to do this, so it's all hogwash. This was pie in the sky to begin with, cutting Medicaid and the like only make this less likely.
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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you do realize state and local governments don't have the funds to do this, so it's all hogwash. This was pie in the sky to begin with, cutting Medicaid and the like only make this less likely.
And....think about how great it will be to have toll roads everywhere! And fees!
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Brew City
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Is Trump not aware that Amtrak is part of America's infrastructure?
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Is Trump not aware that Amtrak is part of America's infrastructure?
And that Republicans use it?
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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you do realize state and local governments don't have the funds to do this, so it's all hogwash. This was pie in the sky to begin with, cutting Medicaid and the like only make this less likely.
State and Local governments have more than enough, they just need end all the wasteful spending. State and Local government offices tend to have lots of highly-paid people pushing paper and talking all day anyway, they could easily come up with the 80% of the infrastructure cost, while President Trump's infrastructure plan pays the other 20%.

As always, President Trump always comes up with the very best plans on everything. Just look at the big increases in paychecks starting today for a vast majority of workers.

Then I guess if states and local government don't want to improve their infrastructure by joining the private sector or bond issues paid for through increasing taxes they will just have to go without.

State and local governments could transfer funding from intangible things like education to tangible things like infrastructure, if they don't want that 20% carrot from the federal government then other jurisdictions will use the money or it will just save taxpayers money if these states and local governments can't come up with it.

I think the infrastructure plan is the best. Urges government to join with the private sector on replacing the infrastructure, so that way much of the cost will be from private sector and not big government.

Cities and States can just do what they have always done if they want that money bad enough and that is reduce wasteful spending.
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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State and Local governments have more than enough, they just need end all the wasteful spending. State and Local government offices tend to have lots of highly-paid people pushing paper and talking all day anyway, they could easily come up with the 80% of the infrastructure cost, while President Trump's infrastructure plan pays the other 20%.

As always, President Trump always comes up with the very best plans on everything. Just look at the big increases in paychecks starting today for a vast majority of workers.

Then I guess if states and local government don't want to improve their infrastructure by joining the private sector or bond issues paid for through increasing taxes they will just have to go without.

State and local governments could transfer funding from intangible things like education to tangible things like infrastructure, if they don't want that 20% carrot from the federal government then other jurisdictions will use the money or it will just save taxpayers money if these states and local governments can't come up with it.

I think the infrastructure plan is the best. Urges government to join with the private sector on replacing the infrastructure, so that way much of the cost will be from private sector and not big government.

Cities and States can just do what they have always done if they want that money bad enough and that is reduce wasteful spending.
So now I can safely say you are a Russian bot. Nobody can be this obtuse....
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:39 PM
 
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Sorry, but even DT's own peeps admit his infrastructure plan is a hot mess:


https://therealdeal.com/2018/01/31/r...not-a-reality/


Remember back last year when His Orangeness was running for and shortly after winning WH he proposed paying for *mega* infrastructure spending via tax "ahem" reform. Well the tax code did get reformed but the savings were plowed into reducing rates on corporations and the wealthy (main beneficiaries of the scheme). So where is the $1.5 *trillion* going to be found.


Having shot their **** with tax cuts that ship has now sailed. Two hundred or so billion in private investments is not going bring in sums anywhere near what is required, much less the 1.2 trillion USD.


Mr. Paul Ryan and others in GOP are getting a hard on to cut government spending. But that has to happen anyway and soon unless or until (and it is a mighty big *IF*) the US economy grows at the mythical four to five percent predicted that will pay for the recently enacted tax cuts.


And it would take massive cuts in government spending in areas both DNC and GOP hold near and dear (military, entitlements, etc....) to even remotely find $1.2 or so trillion.


All must face the facts for they are facts that in order to fund the sort of massive infrastructure spending this country needs is via taxes. Everyone on both sides of political fence knows this, though most would rather die than admit it publically.

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Old 01-31-2018, 08:41 PM
 
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State and Local governments have more than enough, they just need end all the wasteful spending. State and Local government offices tend to have lots of highly-paid people pushing paper and talking all day anyway, they could easily come up with the 80% of the infrastructure cost, while President Trump's infrastructure plan pays the other 20%.

As always, President Trump always comes up with the very best plans on everything. Just look at the big increases in paychecks starting today for a vast majority of workers.

Then I guess if states and local government don't want to improve their infrastructure by joining the private sector or bond issues paid for through increasing taxes they will just have to go without.

State and local governments could transfer funding from intangible things like education to tangible things like infrastructure, if they don't want that 20% carrot from the federal government then other jurisdictions will use the money or it will just save taxpayers money if these states and local governments can't come up with it.

I think the infrastructure plan is the best. Urges government to join with the private sector on replacing the infrastructure, so that way much of the cost will be from private sector and not big government.

Cities and States can just do what they have always done if they want that money bad enough and that is reduce wasteful spending.

What is your experience in DOT projects to make this claim?
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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And....think about how great it will be to have toll roads everywhere! And fees!
The 110 toll diamond lanes are awesome here!! If you have 1 passenger or more it's free, if alone it costs like $1.50-$2.00 to go all the way to downtown LA from Gardena.

I'll take more of that, please.
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