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Old 02-18-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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If the intent was to eliminate mass shootings, then why not restrict/ban certain ammunitions?

The military style assault weapons all use what's known as "intermediate cartridge" which are designed for automatic, self-loading firearms. There have been ASW bans, but they were ineffective. The banned/restricted ammunitions also have an effect of dwindling inventory over time. Of course banning is banning civilian use, military use would be unaffected. The second amendment did not mention what types of firearms and/or ammunitions, it's hard to argue right infringement.

Here's list of "intermediate cartridges", aka "service cartridges" in the world:

5.45×39mm cartridge of the AK-74 assault rifle
5.56×45mm NATO cartridge of the M16 assault rifle
5.8×42mm cartridge of the QBZ-95 assault rifle
7.62×39mm cartridge of the AK-47 assault rifle
7.62×45mm cartridge of the vz. 52 semi-automatic rifle
7.92×33mm Kurz cartridge of the Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_cartridge
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Old 02-18-2018, 02:03 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Yes, by banning ammunition one could implement stricter gun control without violating/changing the constitution. Let people have their guns, but without ammunition

The Swiss have such a law...
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Old 02-18-2018, 02:54 PM
 
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So you want to make ammunition illegal? Effectively creating a massive black market?
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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Besides creating a black market as mentioned, others will take up re-loading.
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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If the intent was to eliminate mass shootings, then why not restrict/ban certain ammunitions?

The military style assault weapons all use what's known as "intermediate cartridge" which are designed for automatic, self-loading firearms. There have been ASW bans, but they were ineffective. The banned/restricted ammunitions also have an effect of dwindling inventory over time. Of course banning is banning civilian use, military use would be unaffected. The second amendment did not mention what types of firearms and/or ammunitions, it's hard to argue right infringement.

Here's list of "intermediate cartridges", aka "service cartridges" in the world:

5.45×39mm cartridge of the AK-74 assault rifle
5.56×45mm NATO cartridge of the M16 assault rifle
5.8×42mm cartridge of the QBZ-95 assault rifle
7.62×39mm cartridge of the AK-47 assault rifle
7.62×45mm cartridge of the vz. 52 semi-automatic rifle
7.92×33mm Kurz cartridge of the Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_cartridge
You don't get the right to privately own property from a fictional piece of paper. You get that right by being born.
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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Not hard to reload.
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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Not hard to reload.
I have been reloading for over ten years.

I have dies for most calibers including some calibers not seen since the thirties.

I can crank out 200 rounds an hour especially the .223 caliber, 7.62X39, .308, most pistol calibers.

So bring on the ban, I have thousands of rounds and can reload thousands more.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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Brass could be swept away, reload could also be outlawed ... the thing about ammo is, it can dwindle out once banned.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:06 PM
 
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Brass could be swept away, reload could also be outlawed ... the thing about ammo is, it can dwindle out once banned.
As normal, no response to any responses....
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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Brass could be swept away, reload could also be outlawed ... the thing about ammo is, it can dwindle out once banned.
Bullets can be poured from melted down wheel weights etc. black market will take of what cant be home brewed.
outlawing drugs sure worked huh? Your type never learns.
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