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I think the amount of violence in movies, television and music today does affect people. It doesn't cause a person to go out and commit a crime for everyone but it does desensitize people in some ways to violence.
And you cannot compare the violence in media today to being the same as before, not even the same level. Its much worse today. Shows on t.v. when my parents grew up: Father knows best, Andy Griffith, Leave it to beaver......today reality t.v. shows with zero substance, CSI, NCIS, Walking Dead etc..... I think there is a correlation but you still need good parenting and a safe upbringing to influence a person first.
I think the amount of violence in movies, television and music today does affect people. It doesn't cause a person to go out and commit a crime for everyone but it does desensitize people in some ways to violence.
And you cannot compare the violence in media today to being the same as before, not even the same level. Its much worse today. Shows on t.v. when my parents grew up: Father knows best, Andy Griffith, Leave it to beaver......today reality t.v. shows with zero substance, CSI, NCIS, Walking Dead etc..... I think there is a correlation but you still need good parenting and a safe upbringing to influence a person first.
One of the reasons why I turned off NBC for a while in the 90s. They had programming to show that people should not own guns and yet, their crime shows were of crime scene photos showing how terrible the world was. To me, they were stirring the pot.
Another thing is that I don't watch L&O: SVU because I don't believe that sexual violence, as in a show dedicated to that, should be a form of entertainment.
Here's your chance Trump fans. For a year and a half I have yet to hear one of you criticize your boy, not once. Since we all know nobody is perfect it lead to series credibility issues with those posters
Well here's your chance. Do you think the President was wrong here or do you actually believe that violent movies and video games are contributing to all this craziness? If you do please show your work, that should be interesting.
Good start for Trump and of course he's right. As we all know the solution will involve not only moving away from our culture of anger, hate, violence and vengeance it will also require common sense gun laws. It's amusing to watch him dance around that topic. Amusing but disgusting at the same time.
Here's your chance Trump fans. For a year and a half I have yet to hear one of you criticize your boy, not once. Since we all know nobody is perfect it lead to series credibility issues with those posters
Well here's your chance. Do you think the President was wrong here or do you actually believe that violent movies and video games are contributing to all this craziness? If you do please show your work, that should be interesting.
I have already said before that Hollywood, rap music & heavy metal music should be banned, so Trump is thinking in the right direction. These things should be done away with, not the right to bear arms granted by the founders.
Europe also has access to violent movies and video games, they also have mental illness, why are we different.
European children don't make video games a primary means of entertainment. Kids are encouraged to actually talk to each other and work out their problems face to face instead of through a chat board.
Very simple. Do you agree with the President when he points the finger at video game and violent movies? Yes or no? If yes then please elaborate.
The serial killer Ted Bundy acknowledged that pornography drove him to rape and kill. Jeffrey Dahmer acknowledged that his belief in atheism cheapened life, so killing was no big deal. Don't you find it odd that godless people want to ban guns, but not pornography, Hollywood, rap music, heavy metal music, etc.?
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Originally Posted by Creekcat The shoot'em up movies of the '60's and '70's are not the same as today. The video games of the '80's and 90's are not the ones of today. What has changed? Our society. Our feelings are hurt too easily. We can't seem to function or interact with others, without some kind of electronic device. We take meds for the slightest of ailments. How many children play outside anymore? I'm not talking about organized sports. We chase the almighty dollar, as if the next one, will make us happier than the last one.
Good point!
I need to get off this computer and go out to the porch and enjoy some of my outside world on this soggy afternoon.
........of course as addictive as this thing is, it will take considerable effort to move away from it.
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I was eventually able to do it, get away from the computer for the rest of Saturday (I got to my porch sooner). I came on line this morning because it was at the end of "market time", when my Internet is charged to a greater allowance....but now that is 14 minutes in the past (the end of "market time").
The greatest thing that I found that enabled me to stay away from the Net was powering down the laptop. It takes about 7-10 minutes from turn on till Firefox is ready to communicate and with that lag, well whatever thought I wanted to put on the Net, it could wait.
Could that be part of the answer? To schedule windows in Internet time of when you could do certain things on the Net? After all, in our instant gratification world, if there is somewhat of a delay, will that teach us to turn to other things?
A and B.
A: We talk about waiting limits before one can possess guns. Well, if it is good enough for guns, is it then good enough for the Net, for freedom of speech?
B: With the end of Net Neutrality, could this limiter be applied?
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The serial killer Ted Bundy acknowledged that pornography drove him to rape and kill. Jeffrey Dahmer acknowledged that his belief in atheism cheapened life, so killing was no big deal. Don't you find it odd that godless people want to ban guns, but not pornography, Hollywood, rap music, heavy metal music, etc.?
Yes, but.......
In one of those Ted Bundy flicks, in one of his early Seattle kills, he's gagging his victim with his hand, she is in her bed in her bedroom. He tells her that he will remove his hand and if she doesn't scream, he won't hurt her. She agrees and he does and then states, "Now, there is just one thing. I have broken into your house, am holding you hostage. Why should you believe anything I say?". He then slugs her unconscious.
That may have just been lines in a movie but we do know that his method was to use the trust of people to get past their defenses so he had the upper hand. So, once again, why should we believe anything he said?
He could have been like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawren...and_Roy_Norris , Bittaker, doing anything to play the system to his enjoyment because, after all, when one has done things like that on the outside and is then locked up till the end of days, what else is there to do? IMHO.
As far as Dahmer goes, well maybe yes, maybe no. It's been at least 13 years since I read that book, if not more, but as I recall, his trigger at first was people leaving him.
Finally, there is, "Well, Tamara, you read all those crime paperbacks, how do you think it affects you and the others that read them?"
I don't know. In some cases, I read those books as a courtesy for those who's kin who were victims are in that book to let them know how close to the mark or not the descriptions are. In other cases, I read because I am directed to. Finally, I read to build up a mental data base.
How does it affect me? At times, I have to put the book down and work through the emotions "seen" by what I've read, such as with one book on child abuse.
Mom would call such things "mind pollution", as she would with movies of the like and similar, but I suppose the saving grace is that, professionally, someone has to do it.
How it might affect someone not in my line of work, I don't know. I suppose I could create a mental construct of such a person but at best, that would be an informed opinion if it doesn't have confirmation.
The problem with censorship of "factual" books is, IMHO, it would remove the availability to those researchers, like me, who don't belong to an agency. Even if one said, "Well, you could get the sponsorship of an agency", one must appreciate that in the bureaucratic world, it is far easier to ask forgiveness than to get permission.
There you go.
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If videgames make a person want to kill people, that person is likely a psychopath or sociopath who would’ve killed people anyway.
Same with a psychopath or sociopath who owns a gun. It's not the gun, but the person. Question is: What is the hard left's ulterior motive to strip peoples' right to bear arms while considering these other perversions sacred? Hint: The last chapter of the Bible.
The serial killer Ted Bundy acknowledged that pornography drove him to rape and kill. Jeffrey Dahmer acknowledged that his belief in atheism cheapened life, so killing was no big deal. Don't you find it odd that godless people want to ban guns, but not pornography, Hollywood, rap music, heavy metal music, etc.?
Same with a psychopath or sociopath who owns a gun. It's not the gun, but the person. Question is: What is the hard left's ulterior motive to strip peoples' right to bear arms while considering these other perversions sacred? Hint: The last chapter of the Bible.
I missed the gun chapter of the bible.
WWJD?
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