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Old 02-24-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Guess it is rather difficult to promote morals when the current president of the country has had 5 kids with 3 different women and one out of wedlock, in addition to affairs with playmates, porn stars, etc.

You know, glass houses and all that.
you certainly know the moral issue has little to do with who is in the White house. Let's talk about Kennedy or Clinton plus many others. No, this has nothing to do with the overall declining morals. None of the kids Trump has had or Kennedy had were illegitimate. Overall the problem became out of control starting in the 60s
Let me add,I am not defending Trumps morals either.

 
Old 02-24-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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Guess it is rather difficult to promote morals when the current president of the country has had 5 kids with 3 different women and one out of wedlock, in addition to affairs with playmates, porn stars, etc.

You know, glass houses and all that.
Another interesting stat is that people suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome are 100% unlikely to be able to stay on any subject and cannot help trying to derail every discussion that people with functioning brains are attempting to have.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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If you are basing this on the so-called "nuclear family" of the 1950s, it never existed according to sociology studies. I have 2 years of college sociology that I recently finished.
that is what you were taught in college to believe as most sociologist are way leaning to the left. You notice I I said most. I briefly changed my college major from nutrition to sociology in college but went back to nutrition. Believe me, I was raised in the 50s and the nuclear family very much existed.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...tiple-partners

Seems like 22% of women who have 2 or more biological children have had multiple fathers for the children.

As many would say, 22% of women with 2 or more children have multiple baby daddies. Wonder what that number was two generations ago.

Just another example of crumbling morals in America!

Will be rather interesting with the next generation as in 24 states a majority of births are Medicaid births and over 40% are unmarried births these days.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...-born-medicaid
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/unm...ildbearing.htm

The opposite it true - men are the fathers of these children, have multiple children with multiple women without marrying any of them. Its outrageous that you should claim that crumbling morals is all about women. Takes two to tango you know.

I do think, despite those statistics women are more morale and better than men. I suspect most of these women would love to have a decent man in their lives and father their children, if only they didn't keep finding out the hard way that there are so few.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 12:06 PM
 
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What about men having children with three different women? Like the guy in the WH.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 12:06 PM
 
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you certainly know the moral issue has little to do with who is in the White house. Let's talk about Kennedy or Clinton plus many others. No, this has nothing to do with the overall declining morals. None of the kids Trump has had or Kennedy had were illegitimate. Overall the problem became out of control starting in the 60s
Well, that's debatable in Trump's case, but I'd far rather refer to "illegitimate parents" than to "illegitimate children", who have nothing whatsoever to do with the circumstances of their birth or their parents' misdemeanors.

Therefore, none of Trump's five children is illegitimate, even if their parents were not married - to each other - at the time of their birth.

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Old 02-24-2018, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Then it should have decreased the eight years Obama was president.
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you certainly know the moral issue has little to do with who is in the White house. Let's talk about Kennedy or Clinton plus many others. No, this has nothing to do with the overall declining morals. None of the kids Trump has had or Kennedy had were illegitimate. Overall the problem became out of control starting in the 60s
Let me add,I am not defending Trumps morals either.
Logic 101 people. Where did I state that Trump caused this issue?

But one certainly can point to him as a person who has contributed to the moral decline simply by virtue of his lifestyle and history.

And one can certainly not start lecturing and condemning others for having the same morals Trump exhibits. Why that would be rather hypocritical wouldn't it?
 
Old 02-24-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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that is what you were taught in college to believe as most sociologist are way leaning to the left. You notice I I said most. I briefly changed my college major from nutrition to sociology in college but went back to nutrition. Believe me, I was raised in the 50s and the nuclear family very much existed.
I also was raised in the 50s and completely disagree with you.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The opposite it true - men are the fathers of these children, have multiple children with multiple women without marrying any of them. Its outrageous that you should claim that crumbling morals is all about women. Takes two to tango you know.

I do think, despite those statistics women are more morale and better than men. I suspect most of these women would love to have a decent man in their lives and father their children, if only they didn't keep finding out the hard way that there are so few.
Some people who have not been able to make healthy emotional connections with the opposite sex resort to geographical relocation only to experience similar outcomes. Some become increasingly bitter about the opposite sex and don’t seem to have a problem painting half of the population with a broad brush, a cognitive distortion.

I don’t think it ever dawns on some of these lonely people that they may be the problem.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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Some people who have not been able to make healthy emotional connections with the opposite sex resort to geographical relocation only to experience similar outcomes. Some become increasingly bitter about the opposite sex and don’t seem to have a problem painting half of the population with a broad brush, a cognitive distortion.

I don’t think it ever dawns on some of these lonely people that they may be the problem.
Elliot Rodger. He was totally dumfounded that women weren't throwing themselves at him. It was everyone else's fault.
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