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Old 02-28-2018, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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It’s still legal to report rape in London?
Not if the assailant is Muslim. Er, sorry, "Asian". Hate speech, you know.

Better hope Nazism never takes off in Germany again. Any criticizing them or their policies in Britain...would be a criminal.
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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You can't have ANY self defense weapons in the UK. Not even pepper spray. A lady in Australia was facing 14 years in jail for having a little pepper spray in her purse.

I'm surprised rape is not up 150%. The weaker can't fight back or resist. If the 2nd A hating dems had their way we would still be under England's rule no doubt.
See, this is why we worry about the US starting down that road.

I didn't even realize there are supposedly free countries that prohibit even pepper spray. It isn't even a lethal weapon. That is confounding - these western countries really do not care about the safety of their women.
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:15 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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See, this is why we worry about the US starting down that road.

I didn't even realize there are supposedly free countries that prohibit even pepper spray. It isn't even a lethal weapon. That is confounding - these western countries really do not care about the safety of their women.
It's not as if the US is any safer than the UK or most of Europe.

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According to RAIIN, Every 107 seconds, someone in the United States is sexually assaulted. There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year. 68% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police. 98% of rapists will never spend a day in jail.

Top 10 Countries With Maximum Rape Crimes
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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Sounds like he is the Breitbart of England.
Watch the first video. He is not what you say, and has every right to be critical of what happened to his community. His cousin was groomed into prostitution just like those girls in Rotherham. How would you feel if you were in his situation? Really, you should watch the entire video.
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:23 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Cute story-but the link refutes that:
The fact that the police now treat such crimes so seriously and have increased resources in relation to sex crimes means that reported crimes. Crime Figures often demonstrate where most police resources are being directed, and there have been numerous high profile sex abuse operations in the UK in recent years including Operation Yewtree.

Operation Yewtree - Wikipedia

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High-profile coverage of sexual offences and the police response to reports of non-recent sexual offending is another factor that is likely to influence police recording of sexual offences.

For example, Operation Yewtree, which began in 2012, and more recently, allegations by former footballers, alongside a dedicated police operation set up to investigate these.

Such operations are likely to have an ongoing influence on victims’ willingness to come forward to report both recent and non-recent offences.

Given the different factors affecting the reporting and recording of these offences, these data do not currently provide a reliable indication of current trends in sexual offences.

Although police recorded crime cannot give a reliable estimate of trends, it does provide information about demands on the police in relation to sexual offences.

Sexual offences in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

Why are sexual offences increasing in Scotland? - BBC News

Rise in recorded rapes due to more victims speaking up | Guardian
Furthermore as I have already stated changes to the law and what constitutes rape has also had some impact, as has changes to counting figures. There are three types of figures which the Office for National Statistics use to put together annual crime figures, the first is recorded police figures, the second is interviews with members of the public as part of the Crime Survey for England & Wales (CSEW), and the third is hospital admissions due to violent and sexual crime, these figures are provided by the Violence Research Group led by Cardiff University.

It also should be noted thar reported rape does not necessarily mean more rape convictions, as without physical evidence, forensics, eye witnesses, CCTV and other evidence, it is often one persons word against another, and Jurioes find it hard to convict to a level beyinf reasonable doubt which has a legal threshold of over 99% certainty in such circumstances.

In the US it is estimated that 98% of rapists will never spend a day in jail.

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Possible has more to do with what constitutes rape as a crime keeps changing to include more and more things, and it's now far easier for women to come forward and speak to the police, who have specialist officers and units.

For instance, in 1991, rape within marriage became a crime and before 1993 nobody under 14 could be tried for rape. The Sexual Offences Act 2003 furthered the defintion of rape to include oral, any insertion of an object and other such criteria.

Now it's been widened even further, a man could now be guilty of rape if he ‘tricks’ a women into bed; if he agrees to use a condom but then removes it or damages it; or, if he agrees to withdraw from her but refuses to at the end. So the offence of rape now definitely does not just concern the knife-wielding maniac in the alleyway.

Scotland Yard has emphasised that the vast majority of rapes are carried out by attackers known to victims and not strangers.

Did you know the legal definition of rape and 'consent' is changing? Here's how - The Telegraph

Victims of rape by strangers to have identity protected under new bill - The Guardian

Sexual Offences Act 2003 - Wikipedia

Sexual Offences Act 1993 - Wikipedia

R v R - Wikipedia (Marital Rape Ruling 1991)


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Old 02-28-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rother...tation_scandal

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The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations; the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority
Just let it sink in.
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Old 02-28-2018, 11:20 AM
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That was Rotherham Council Social Services not the police, the police and National Crime Agency actively pursue anyone regardless of ethnicity.

As for Rotherham Council it was disbaded an an Emergency Team from Central Government was sent to run the area.

Rotherham Council taken over by Government as bosses quit following child abuse scandal - Daily Mirror

National Crime Agency - Operation Stovewood

Scotland Yard's paedophile unit: Meeting the police men and women doing the most difficult work imaginable | The Independent
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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See, this is why we worry about the US starting down that road.

I didn't even realize there are supposedly free countries that prohibit even pepper spray. It isn't even a lethal weapon. That is confounding - these western countries really do not care about the safety of their women.
Pepper spray is illegal but they have other 'defensive' sprays'.
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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The fact that the police now treat such crimes so seriously and have increased resources in relation to sex crimes means that reported crimes. Crime Figures often demonstrate where most police resources are being directed, and there have been numerous high profile sex abuse operations in the UK in recent years including Operation Yewtree.

Operation Yewtree - Wikipedia



Furthermore as I have already stated changes to the law and what constitutes rape has also had some impact, as has changes to counting figures. There are three types of figures which the Office for National Statistics use to put together annual crime figures, the first is recorded police figures, the second is interviews with members of the public as part of the Crime Survey for England & Wales (CSEW), and the third is hospital admissions due to violent and sexual crime, these figures are provided by the Violence Research Group led by Cardiff University.

It also should be noted thar reported rape does not necessarily mean more rape convictions, as without physical evidence, forensics, eye witnesses, CCTV and other evidence, it is often one persons word against another, and Jurioes find it hard to convict to a level beyinf reasonable doubt which has a legal threshold of over 99% certainty in such circumstances.

In the US it is estimated that 98% of rapists will never spend a day in jail.
In your opinion what percentage of the blame for the increase in reported rape crimes could be assigned to "Asians" and other foreign(or crown colony) migrants or refugees? 0%? 5%?


And even if the increase in reports is mainly due to changes in legal definitions or procedural in nature, is there any increase in the percentage of rapes being reported that is being allegedly perpetrated by "Asians" and other foreign(or crown colony) migrants or refugees?
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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See, this is why we worry about the US starting down that road.

I didn't even realize there are supposedly free countries that prohibit even pepper spray. It isn't even a lethal weapon. That is confounding - these western countries really do not care about the safety of their women.
Western countries are under some kind of subversive occupation. The right of self defense and to bear arms is a very ancient Anglo value and right. Liberty and the rights of the common person largely originated in Britain and now they are discarding all of those values that were hard fought for in the past.
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