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Old 03-24-2018, 09:29 PM
 
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We don't need or want mentally ill people in our military. If they wish to be militia we can work that out.
We also don't want mentally ill presidents!

Well, so much for what we might want!

Besides, war is stupid anyways....
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:46 PM
 
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There is no such thing as a "transgender" person.

A so-called "transgender" pretending to be a woman, is really nothing more than a man who has undergone voluntary genital mutilation and picked up a drug habit (hormones).

He is still a man, albeit a confused one.
This comment demonstrates the fact that there's much you don't know about people who've never identified with their sex genitalia.

They've never felt comfortable behaving the way others behave who share their same sex genitalia. As a matter of fact, most transgenders feel more comfortable behaving in a manner that more closely resembles behavior that mirrors most members who share the opposite sex genitalia.

Then there are those people who are born with genitalia from both sexes. Often times, the physical appearance indicates one sex being more pronounced than the other, but sometimes not. Sometimes, the most pronounced sex genitalia doesn't correspond to how the person thinks or feels in terms of what's socially acceptable in terms of gender.

It's not quite a digital world when it comes to "gender" or sometimes sex either....
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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He's an idiot for banning anyone wanting to serve our country.
Pretty sure if you are an insulin dependent diabetic you have been precluded from serving the country for the last 50+ years for exactly the same reasons Trump gave in his statement: military effectiveness.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:39 PM
 
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This comment demonstrates the fact that there's much you don't know about people who've never identified with their sex genitalia.

They've never felt comfortable behaving the way others behave who share their same sex genitalia. As a matter of fact, most transgenders feel more comfortable behaving in a manner that more closely resembles behavior that mirrors most members who share the opposite sex genitalia.

Then there are those people who are born with genitalia from both sexes. Often times, the physical appearance indicates one sex being more pronounced than the other, but sometimes not. Sometimes, the most pronounced sex genitalia doesn't correspond to how the person thinks or feels in terms of what's socially acceptable in terms of gender.

It's not quite a digital world when it comes to "gender" or sometimes sex either....
When I was 14 I was sure I was a pro-athlete. I accepted reality and grew out of it. Occasionally, I score a goal in over 30's soccer.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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When I was 14 I was sure I was a pro-athlete. I accepted reality and grew out of it. Occasionally, I score a goal in over 30's soccer.
False analogy
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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He's an idiot for banning anyone wanting to serve our country.
actually not...

a transgender, going through the transformation is NON-deployable ........ and right now the CoS and SMA are making readiness the main priority...especially when 15%+ of troops are currently non-deployable for a multitude of reasons.

https://www.army.mil/article/195130/...dual_readiness

https://www.army.mil/article/166838/..._no_1_priority

https://www.army.mil/article/200810/...loyable_troops

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9909a0fea654




remember...only 3 out of 10 of our youth (18-24yr olds) is QUALIFIED for military service
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:12 PM
 
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He's an idiot for banning anyone wanting to serve our country.
Only idiots think anyone is “fit” physically and mentally to “serve” our Nation.

If America had an all in defense then yes every wheel chair bound sexual deviant should share in our common defense.

But we don’t have that.

We have a spread freedom and democracy worldwide defense.

That has standards.

Mental.

Physical.

Standards that should be high but isn’t.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:38 PM
 
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Only idiots think anyone is “fit” physically and mentally to “serve” our Nation.

If America had an all in defense then yes every wheel chair bound sexual deviant should share in our common defense.

But we don’t have that.

We have a spread freedom and democracy worldwide defense.

That has standards.

Mental.

Physical.

Standards that should be high but isn’t.
With the current POTUS, consider yourself lucky NOT to be qualified for military service, if you're transgender.

It would be an absolute shame to risk your life simply because your commander and chief had a hissy fit and decided to nuke NK, because he couldn't get his damned wall built!
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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Not all positions in the military are combat positions. Not to mention women already serve to various capacities.
Incorrect. You are a soldier first....MOS second. If they tell you to grab a gun and shoot, you do it. Your job is secondary. (ETA: This is from a conversation I've had with my husband because he had a job that kept him behind the wire.)

They are seriously cracking down on people who do not deploy or are not deployable.

Here is some interesting information that I came across this morning and sat down to read this evening.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...nder-decision/
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:53 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Incorrect. You are a soldier first....MOS second. If they tell you to grab a gun and shoot, you do it. Your job is secondary. (ETA: This is from a conversation I've had with my husband because he had a job that kept him behind the wire.)

They are seriously cracking down on people who do not deploy or are not deployable.

Here is some interesting information that I came across this morning and sat down to read this evening.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...nder-decision/
So explain why transgendered are not deployable while women are? There already many trans as well as women service members. Many members will serve even in war time in non-combat positions and realistically never see combat. What makes a transgendered person unable to grab a gun and shoot just like the rest of them?

Recall this was in response to a post:

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I agree. Transgender is real.
But with the problems that usually accompany such a condition, I think in most cases there is no place for them in the military. I mean, "The guy in my foxhole started his period?"
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