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Which party will be running this Centrist candidate?
I've said for a while that a moderate could sweep through the middle - an Eisenhower who was a Republican in the 1950s but would be repudiated by today's GOP. What party would he be if he ran now?
The economy is starting to show signs of souring and it's largely due to the reckless actions of Trump. How will Trump appeal to these voters if he can't hang his hat on the economy (which by and large was the result of Obama's policies)?
Souring in what way? Please be specific.
Obama had sub 3% GDP growth over his entire eight years. He prolonged the recession.
The problem is that the people you identify as "Centrists" are actually Leftists, not true Moderates. A lot of true Centrists/Moderates like Trump, especially with regards to the Economy, and that is how people will vote.
Ehh...... Very, very debatable.
Centrists might not be a part of the "resistance" movement, but they're certainly not a fan of Trump on average, I would argue.
One of the biggest issues is that our party primary system doesn't generally produce moderate candidates. And moderates don't have great options when it comes to major elections.
I would love to see a legitimate third party - that would help tremendously in making our political system more palatable.
I think you're correct that the current positive economic status of the country helps Trump with these voters. But on the flip side, many people are also smart enough to recognize that the economy has been improving for a while now.
If you browsed through the postings here on C-D or Reddit or any of the other active political forums, you might come away with the idea that American is entirely composed of two radical camps; the hard Right that has been positioning for decades to put someone like Donald Trump into office; and the reactionary Left that has emerged in response to the neofascist yammering of the Right.
The reality of course is that these two camps may make the most noise, they may fill forums like this one with wildly emotional rants and arguments, but the vast majority of Americans find them useless. Here's why: most Americans are practical centrists. Most Americans want to cherry pick the useful planks of the platforms of the Right and the Left and bring them together into a coherent functional USA. Most Americans are not crazed ideologues, no matter what you may read here - most simply want to go to work every day and to enable their families to be reasonably safe, prosperous and healthy.
In the upcoming elections, this is the group that will be speaking. The longer Donald Trump stays in office, the stronger the Centrist movement will become. We can see it starting now, with our youngest generation saying "enough". They are starting to put the pieces together, and their votes will be a huge overturning force in the upcoming elections. If you are a reasonably sane center-Left Democrat or center-Right Republican, then 2018 and 2020 will be your election years.
Change is coming, and it may get boring. I think we are all ready for boring.
Very well said, sir. I'd give you a thousand rep points if I could!
Stop illegal immigration, but don't deport families?
Limit access to guns via waiting periods and background checks, but otherwise not?
Tax the rich but cut taxes on everyone else?
Reduce H1B workers who undercut citizens wages?
Abortion except in the 3rd trimester?
Legalize marijuana but not opiates?
Pull out of all foreign entanglements?
Cut all spending including defense?
The problem is when you add up the 20-30% hard right and 20-30% hard left and average out, that's probably where you end up. But how many people actually have those exact positions? It's the old "what do you really stand for?" Who really gets excited standing behind a compromise? "Yay for the middle of the road guy, yeah!!"
That's why, in primary battles, they always play to the more polarized base, then switch to the center for the election.
Stop illegal immigration, but don't deport families?
Limit access to guns via waiting periods and background checks, but otherwise not?
Tax the rich but cut taxes on everyone else?
Reduce H1B workers who undercut citizens wages?
Abortion except in the 3rd trimester?
Legalize marijuana but not opiates?
Pull out of all foreign entanglements?
Cut all spending including defense?
The problem is when you add up the 20-30% hard right and 20-30% hard left and average out, that's probably where you end up. But how many people actually have those exact positions? It's the old "what do you really stand for?" Who really gets excited standing behind a compromise? "Yay for the middle of the road guy, yeah!!"
That's why, in primary battles, they always play to the more polarized base, then switch to the center for the election.
I don't think the bolded is true anymore, even if it used to be to some extent. Certainly not on the right, there was no tacking to the middle in the general election and most definitely not governing. And as a liberal, I would say that Dems tend to nominate the more centrist candidate from their party, not the Democratic equivalent of a Tea Partier.
I don't think the bolded is true anymore, even if it used to be to some extent. Certainly not on the right, there was no tacking to the middle in the general election and most definitely not governing. And as a liberal, I would say that Dems tend to nominate the more centrist candidate from their party, not the Democratic equivalent of a Tea Partier.
I think in a fair primary system Sanders very well may have won the Dem nomination. Don't forget that Hillary basically started off half way home with all the Super Delegates and then the party did everything they could to push the election to her.
In that sense you would have had 2 outsider types but the center would be picking the President from those 2.
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