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Old 04-09-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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One deputy resigned. That has been the only casualty of the Parkland school shooting - and he wasn't even fired. I don't understand why there is not more heat put in these people whose JOB it is to protect those school kids.

Looking for 'solutions' to mass killings? Start with punishing failure.

Despite receiving a warning directly from the Russian government, the FBI failed to stop the Tsarnaev brothers from staging the Boston Marathon bombing. Despite having plenty of resources, the Charlottesville police failed to stop a car attack that left a woman dead. The FBI interviewed Omar Mateen, the Orlando Pulse nightclub shooter, and considered criminally investigating him. They didn’t — possibly because his father was an FBI informant.

The FBI also missed numerous "red flags" before the San Bernardino shooting. And despite having lots of warning, the FBI, the Broward County schools and the Broward Sheriff’s Department under Sheriff Scott Israel all failed to stop Nikolas Cruz from shooting up a high school.

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This is why calls for more gun control ring hollow. When the laws that would have prevented Nikolas Cruz from getting a gun failed because those in charge of executing them chose — chose — not to enforce them, because doing so would have made the school’s crime reports look bad, then it’s hard to believe that more laws will make a difference.

You know what might make a difference, though? Consequences.

Consequences for those who failed Parkland’s kids. Sheriff Israel shouldn’t still have a job. Neither should School Superintendent Runcie. And a lot of deputies and FBI agents should be facing, at the least, sharp (and public) questioning about why they failed here.

If we’re not willing to impose basic accountability on those in charge of keeping kids safe, then we don’t really care and everything else is just noise. So which is it?


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Here’s a time line of incidents where Cruz was reported to law enforcement.

‘School shooter in the making’: All the times authorities were warned about Nikolas Cruz
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Abolishing liberty to appear to be "doing something about crime" is a sign of an incompetent government - or a sly one seeking to disarm the (m)asses at any cost.
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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as i have noted many times, we need criminal control, including the criminals in charge of our various governments around the country.
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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as i have noted many times, we need criminal control, including the criminals in charge of our various governments around the country.
The founding fathers expected the people to take care of these problems if they sprung up though too, we must accept part of the blame for allowing this to go on for so long. We are NOT to obey or be subservient to a tyrannical Govt in anyway shape or form.
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:47 AM
 
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The founding fathers expected the people to take care of these problems if they sprung up though too, we must accept part of the blame for allowing this to go on for so long. We are NOT to obey or be subservient to a tyrannical Govt in anyway shape or form.
as i have said many times in the past. far too often these days we look to the government to solve our problems, instead of solving them ourselves.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Instead of gun control... government control should be instituted


We don't have to "institute" government control. We already have it. It's been there for centuries. We're just not obeying it.

It's call the U.S. Constitution. It was written to form the current U.S. government, and assign the govt its powers, transferring the appropriate powers from the States. An any power it didn't transfer, was FORBIDDEN to the Fed govt, though the states and lower govts could still exercise it if they wanted.

The Constitution's main purpose was to create and then RESTRICT the U.S. govt, and in certain areas restrict the states and lower governments too. No slavery, no laws restricting speech, the press, the right to keep and bear arms etc.

I've long said that the biggest thing wrong with the Constitution, is that it doesn't name penalties for those who violate it.

The 2nd amendment forbids all govts in the U.S. to have any say in who can own and carry a weapon.

What penalties should government officials get, who violate that ban by legislating a gun ban, gun restrictions, waiting periods and all the rest?
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