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Old 04-14-2018, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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This article has a pretty harsh assessment of that. And interestingly, this is a business and economics journalist, not a political one.

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This is the week we know, with increasing certainty, that we are entering the last phase of the Trump Presidency. This doesn’t feel like a prophecy; it feels like a simple statement of the apparent truth. I know dozens of reporters and other investigators who have studied Donald Trump and his business and political ties. Some have been skeptical of the idea that President Trump himself knowingly colluded with Russian officials. It seems not at all Trumpian to participate in a complex plan with a long-term, uncertain payoff. Collusion is an imprecise word, but it does seem close to certain that his son Donald, Jr., and several people who worked for him colluded with people close to the Kremlin; it is up to prosecutors and then the courts to figure out if this was illegal or merely deceitful. We may have a hard time finding out what President Trump himself knew and approved.

However, I am unaware of anybody who has taken a serious look at Trump’s business who doesn’t believe that there is a high likelihood of rampant criminality.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...ump-presidency
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:15 PM
 
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I hope we're at the end of a Trump Presidency. If nothing else, he stays a one term President.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Hopefully we're at the end stage of the Left's Trump Derangement Syndrome.

https://m.wikihow.com/Understand-the...tages-of-Grief
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:33 PM
 
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Oh, man. This is going to be a rough few years for the pussyhat liberals.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...the-deep-state
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Hopefully we're at the end stage of the Left's Trump Derangement Syndrome.

https://m.wikihow.com/Understand-the...tages-of-Grief
Don't bet on it. Even if Trump loses in 2020 they'll be whining and blaming Trump longer than they've been blaming Bush.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Yeah, I figured there'd be a bunch of knee-jerk reactions, with an emphasis on the jerk part.

I'll check back later to see if anyone has actually read the posted article and would like to discuss any aspects of it.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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It would be foolish to under estimate Trump. He's ruthless and without any morals whatsoever. He still has a cult like following of something like 40% of the electorate. He has a well thought out plan to employ disinformation to discredit both the DOJ and the FBI and broadcast this information through Fox News and other friendly news outlets.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:50 PM
 
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Don't bet on it. Even if Trump loses in 2020 they'll be whining and blaming Trump longer than they've been blaming Bush.
Well, to be fair, he will have left a mess made far worse by him behind and are we not still hearing about Obama and Hillary on a daily basis?

Perspective.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
Hopefully we're at the end stage of the Left's Trump Derangement Syndrome.

https://m.wikihow.com/Understand-the...tages-of-Grief
Hardly, it's barely starting up! Think of Karen Carpenter's old hit, "We've Only Just Begun".
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:53 PM
 
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It would be foolish to under estimate Trump. He's ruthless and without any morals whatsoever. He still has a cult like following of something like 40% of the electorate. He has a well thought out plan to employ disinformation to discredit both the DOJ and the FBI and broadcast this information through Fox News and other friendly news outlets.
The FBI doesn't need any help discrediting themselves.
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