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When I hear about all the killings of innocent people all over the country by deranged individuals, important people in high places being convicted of fraud, milking the public for personal gain or company profit, saying things to embellish past lies, etc, I think that the morals in this country have hit bottom. I think that the present leaders of this country have made so many excuses for bad decisions that a lot of private citizens who have criminal intent feel like anything is justifiable and don't have to be held responsible for their actions because if the leaders can get away with lies, deception, and cover ups, then they can do whatever they want and not be held responsible.
Morals are in the person. Some have it and some don't. Some go with whatever they see and think they can get away with and think is the way of life from the top.
Is it a trickle down affect?
I don't know.
All I know is there seems to be more senseless crimes commited than ever before.
I'm not blaming Bush for the bad decisions of people who like to hurt others or be dishonest.
But it seems like it is a dog eat dog time in our society and the current administration has set an example of deceit and the hell with what is best for the country and the general populace.
I have been around for a few decades and I wish we could go back to when there was some caring for others and acceptance of responsibility for personal actions. Thankfully there are stilll those who are like that. But the percentage seems to be declining.
In my opinion George Bush has done more to harm our international image than anyone in history. It will take years, maybe decades to get back to being respected again as a world power who doesn't feel like it has to be the worlds chief of police.
I had no problem with going into Afghanistan to get bin laden.
In fact, my son was there for almost a year with the 10th Mountain Division out of Ft Drum.
I do have a problem with going into Irag. Finish the other job first.
It has only cost 4,000 American lives to go into a country that had " weapons of mass destruction" that we now know weren't there.
Was it worth all those lives to attack a country that really didn't have the capability or hadn't made a direct attack on our shores?
Get bin laden. Insane suddam hussein didn't attack us. bin laden did.
Guess I'm getting off topic so I'll close.
As the Bush years draw to a close, we can now safely reflect on his administration. So I would like to pose this question, do you feel U.S.A. is in a better moral position than it was 8 years ago? Do you feel "family values," are being upheld more?
I ask because the fight to bring back a sense of morality is what drove the Bush campaign in a lot of ways, and what drove much of middle america to vote for him twice. What are your thoughts?
So is the US a more moral country after 8 years of Bush?
I am going to go out on a limb and say, yes, absolutely.
Let me briefly explain. After 9/11, GWB had a 90% approval rate. That tells me that a lot of people here who are critical of Bush once supported him. Indeed. Despite Bush's early success against Afghanistan, people have grown very critical of his other moves. Most of us Americans think Iraq a mistake or find much discomfort with sanctioned torture. Many have criticized this administration's fiscal insanity or their stubborn attitudes.
These attitudes prevail to the extent that we are set to vote either one of two liberal Democrats or possibly a very moderate if not liberal Republican as President.
Good lord...no the country is not any more moral than it was 8 years ago.
It's in deep financial trouble, economic trouble, and the name United States of America now represents something completely different than it ever has in the past.
Bush is an oil man. Maybe he had good intentions, but this views on the world and reality are extremely skewed and distorted. I think the damage he's caused will take years to repair. Let alone how the world views our country, and now an increasing number of people in the US are starting to view what's going on here...
Bush is not a moral man, although he might believe he is inside. With the rise of the Christian conservatism, I see much more unmoral and hateful activities than I did 8 years ago. The few are trying to control the masses in actions and severity much more now than I saw in the 90's. Can't we just live and let live? Why is Bush so determined that this country must function as a Christian state? I'm sorry, but I'm not religious, and I'm tired of being persecuted because of that! I'm just trying to live my life and love my family!!
Razzle, if you don’t like the OP, then why participate in the thread? Quit chastising Bush would be an easy thing if he didn’t pretty well destroy our nation. As the "leader" what he does has an effect on us all. There's a clear indication that this person who calls himself "moral" is not.
There is the Supreme Court deciding an election; Enron; executive privilege; killing members of a sovereign nation and putting thing their heads on display; Abu Graib; Guantanamo; endless war; contempt for citizens; patriot act; destroyed economy; foreign relations; poverty; domestic agenda; tax breaks for the top 1%; health care costs; contempt for those less fortunate than the rich; outsourcing; job market; the dollar at an all time low; world standing; NCLF; etc. All based on Bush/Cheney/Rove’s vision for the US. It's not a pretty picture.
Clinton had someone perform oral sex.
Yeah, that’s a whole lot worse than what this administration did.
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More moral compared to what country. Iran, ?????I think we should all go Muslim and invoke SHRIA law in the USA The you would see about another morality.... But then you women couldn't complain could you? or drive or think or............
Bush is responsible for many misdeeds but he had nothing to do with the decline of morals in this country. The American family has all but been replaced by single mothers raising bastards. These bastards grow up without the benefit of a father and manage to get to adulthood only to repeat the process. American men have become unresponsive to their duties as the father of their own child. I am not fixing blame on any single item, but the philosophy is "if you can get the milk for free why buy the cow."
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