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The Constitution states that one of the purposes of government is to promote the general welfare. The income tax was created as one way of helping to accomplish this. Since you are arguing from the position of someone in a higher tax bracket, Trump's tax cuts for the rich should be swelling your coffers. Yet still you complain. You'll have to excuse me but I'm fresh out of sympathy.
Promote, not to PROVIDE...huge difference. The income tax was established only to pay war expenses. Nothing to do with welfare.
Imagine having nearly half your earned income vanishing to the federal government before state and local taxes. Merely earning a large income should not mean having a car laeger percentage being taken out for taxes.
Everyone should be angry about paying taxes that are then wasted on 40 million dollar gas stations in Afghanistan. Billions sent to Israel, Egypt and Palestine. Bridges to no where. turkeys like the F-35. We all should be outraged.
A good moral, but unrealistic for many. Like the disabled.
The truly poor still pay some taxes. And they remain valuable as consumers.
I would not vote to change our Constitution on this.
The idea that you should get a say in managing the government when you are not supporting it by contributing the taxes on which it runs is a total non-starter.
If you're unfortunate and can't contribute, well then you're just unfortunate that you don't get to participate in governance either. So what? It isn't the end of the world. Your natural rights are not compromised merely because you are not willing or able to participate in a totally artificial political construct. You have not been deprived of anything. You haven't been taxed without representation, because you didn't pay any taxes.
That slogan is backwards...it SHOULD read, "No Representation without Taxation".
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Actually, it usually does. 70% chance they'll die poor.
True and poor people aren't poor because they don't have income - they are poor because they make poor choices and/or lack human capital , which they could then exchange for higher income.
And that isn't anyone's "fault" in a country that offers a free public education to everyone. If you are poor in America, and it isn't due to some unavoidable medical issue, then its because of something you did or something you didn't do. Nobody made you poor. The only person taking money out of your pocket is the government...so if you're poor and don't pay any taxes in the first place, who else is left to blame for what YOU don't have?
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Originally Posted by boneyard1962
Everyone should be angry about paying taxes that are then wasted on 40 million dollar gas stations in Afghanistan. Billions sent to Israel, Egypt and Palestine. Bridges to no where. turkeys like the F-35. We all should be outraged.
If you are a low income earner, 10% tax hurts you a lot more than it does a millionaire. An $100 bill for a millionaire is like a penny to a lower income person.
We need the middle and lower classes to have more money because they are the ones who primarily buy things. If the middle and lower classes have less money, they spend less.
I think you just answered your own question. If you are living paycheck to paycheck, that means your entire paycheck goes towards living expenses. This is becoming more of a problem as living costs increase, but salaries remain stagnant.
Putting away $100/mo for an emergency fund is definitely a wise idea, but it certainly won't make someone rich.
Like I said earlier, that $100 is peanuts to a rich person, but for someone with lower income it's the difference between buying groceries and not eating.
People living paycheck to paycheck are typically doing so because they don't budget wisely. It isn't because "necessities" take all the money, it's because things like tobacco, alcohol, fast food, lottery, and other luxury items are perceived as necessities. Trying to argue otherwise shows a lack of knowledge about being poor.
Putting away $100/no won't make you rich, but it will make it far easier to become rich by giving you a buffer against unexpected emergencies.
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Prove it. You know you are wrong and yet you still hold on to your evil ideology.
I don't have to. It's common sense. Are any of us property of some slaver master? Do you get whipped if you don't pick cotton or plow a field? Do you live in a shack on the slavers property?
What's that? You answered no to all of these?
And FYI, calling me evil is a personal attack and libel
I don't have to. It's common sense. Are any of us property of some slaver master? Do you get whipped if you don't pick cotton or plow a field? Do you live in a shack on the slavers property?
What's that? You answered no to all of these?
And FYI, calling me evil is a personal attack and libel
If I refuse to pay for your lifestyle, I get put in prison. How is that not slavery?
I was calling your ideology evil. Whether a person holds an evil ideology is evil or not is common sense.
Why would you pay for my lifestyle? I work, and I don't get any government assistance.
Further, to your other point; why would you refuse to pay your taxes in the first place? That's what I don't get...
About half of the people pay no federal income tax. They live on the back of those who pay.
That is slavery.
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