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Old 04-19-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Yeah those crazy liberals with their nasty ideas like weekends (no more 6 day workweeks), paid overtime, paid time off, safety regulations, child labor laws, Social Security and Medicare and so much more. Life was just perfect before they came along.....
ohhh careful....One of the biggest capitalist conservatives started most of that stuff. Look up what Henry Ford did for the working man.....

 
Old 04-19-2018, 07:05 PM
 
Location: sumter
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I know many nuclear families, but it's mostly perception, things aren't always what they seem. Yeah, you have mom, dad, the kids, nice homes and jobs, but everybody is doing their own thing. I know some families that don't eat dinner together, son is in his room playing video games, daughter is FB at the table, mom is on her smart phone, and nobody is paying dad any attention. Everybody have their own things going on and places they have to be, the quality time spent together was pretty much a signature of the classic nuclear family.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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ohhh careful....One of the biggest capitalist conservatives started most of that stuff. Look up what Henry Ford did for the working man.....
Henry Ford did not start the 5 day work week. It actually started on a little more than an ad hoc basis right around the turn of the 20th century in New England mills that employed a number of Jewish factory workers. They took off Saturday to observe Shabbat, and were willing to work on Sundays to make up the hours, but local Christians didn't want the mills operating on Sundays. So the mills ended up just closing on both Saturday and Sunday. They remained productive and profitable, and were the genesis of Ford's factories operating on that schedule. But it was labor unions that made it an almost universal standard across the work force other than specific exceptions such as retail and hospitality.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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It was. Let's try American Nightmare, no home and a disintegrated family.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 08:14 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I didn't realize it had been outlawed. Why do conservatives think that just because people aren't forced to live their lives the way they think they should be law that it's somehow against the law? It's the same thing with religion. The government is somehow anti-Christian if they aren't forcing everyone to be Christian.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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Just a blip in our history? We tried to go for this whole idea with a house a car a nuclear family and a steady job. Not that simple today.
I know more people, in addition to my siblings, late 20's to early 60's that are a nuclear family with a home, car and steady job that don't have those things.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 11:17 PM
 
Location: USA
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It is a blip in history. Human beings have never had the quality of life we enjoy now (in certain areas of the world). It came and it will go. We'll be back in straw huts and mud brick homes in a thousand years.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It was the best earth has put forward.. until liberals destroyed it
Your us vs. them, win at all costs attitude went a long way to destroying it, saltine.

There is a lot of blame to go around politically in both parties. Yours caved in to the mega-rich a long time ago. The Kochs and their ilk are obscenely rich and sure don't want to pass it around to the little people like you and me who made them wealthy.

But the Republican party isn't the lone offender when it comes to caving in to the demands of the super-weatlthy; the Democrats have done it too.

And that's the fact of it.

Until you quit your we win when you lose attitude, the rich folks are just gonna keep hoarding it all and leave you and me swingin' in the wind.

But when we po' folks all stop this stupid bickering and come together, vote all the toadies out and demand more equity, we will get it.

And revive the dream when we do.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Yeah those crazy liberals with their nasty ideas like weekends (no more 6 day workweeks), paid overtime, paid time off, safety regulations, child labor laws, Social Security and Medicare and so much more. Life was just perfect before they came along.....

Governmental influence in the lives of all its citizens has nothing to do with this: bigger paychecks and better working conditions evolved precisely because improved technology and the knowledge required to prosper demanded better education (not Leftist Social Justice drivel) and raised the value of the time and attention of the responsible individual.

Unfortunately, simple possession of the tools and credentials isn't enough; you have to be willing and able to structure your days around your employer's demands; there is still a fair amount of flexibility here, but your employer's structure is likely to be driven in turn by the foibles and hang-ups of a customer base who have been conditioned to expect too much, courtesy of the same schlockmeisters of Madison Avenue and Hollywood who peddle unworkable dreams to all of us -- and to you,

Dreamers, druggies and snowflakes need not apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIf_gVGyauA

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