Pat Buchanan: Trump would win Nobel prize if NK signed Iran Deal type agreement MERGED (Huckabee, enemies)
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Linking to the New York Times is your first mistake. Discredited and distrusted.
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy
I must say, after reading the article, the New York Times was much more fair than I expected.
Truly hilarious how you don't bother reading some of the articles posted on POC because they don't fit your narrative. You completely blew off the article in the OP because it wasn't your Fox News. When you finally read it you realized it wasn't "Fake News". Classic.
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy
I think the choice of words, "stink of Israel," speak for themselves. There is more here than a mere "disagreement" with actions. I think the comment "stinks of hatred." And it is also well known that many liberals hate Saudi Arabia as well. But for some reason, they are willing to defend Iran, one of the chief sponsors of terrorism in the region.
You are just projecting what you want it to mean because your distaste of liberals. This is not surprising coming from you. One can dislike Israel and not be antisemitic. As for liberals hating Saudi Arabia, well, I know plenty of conservatives that hate them too. My guess is you like Saudi Arabia because of Trump.
The Iran deal works and will keep working as long as Trump does not purposely break it in order to distract from his domestic problems.
It sure as heck isn't working for the Iranian people you are so fond of. Their currency dropped 50% in 3 months. That means half your bank account went poof in 3 months. Where did the $150 billion dollars go? Oh yeah, how about Syria? Yeah, Iran deal is "working", but not for the people.
Trump can want whatever he wants, but just like he screwed up TPP (we had massive leverage over china with TPP, Trump threw that away like a child. He could have used TPP to force China to the table in a real and meaningful way) he will screw up the JCPOA.
there is no "art" here, you are not fooling any readers .....
The simple fact is Trump repeatedly lies about the deal and claims we had to "pay" iran,
Whether it was their money or not, they didn't have it before the deal, so yes they WERE paid.
Back up a second, both Iran and the European countries were very well aware that negotiating with the administration by itself left open the possibility of the next administration cancelling the deal. I recall some Iranian official making comments along the lines "read your laws" when asked about it, I guess he is the one that should of read them. If they wanted a legally binding agreement then they should of insisted it go through the Senate.
Another thing, certain segments of their government repeatedly called it a bad deal because it tied their hands. Now they are on their hands and knees wanting to keep it.
That’s not the point. While Trump is good was good at outsmarting and paying local politicians people like Kim, Putin, etc are out of his leagues. Trump can’t compete with the big leagues.
Trump, Pompeo and Bolton all want to withdraw from the deal, only Mattis wants to remain. Pompeo wants the State Dept to get its swagger back, sounds like another miscast cabinet member.
Awesome! If he gets a legitimately better deal, that will be great. If he fails to get a materially better deal and/or torpedoes what we have, he is his usual mess. I’m skeptical but not unwilling to applaud objectively good improvement.
And the very next day Trump doubled-down, calling him "Rocketman."
I'm not sure if you understand how foreign policy works, but clearly Kim was bluffing. The sanctions and threats by Trump squeezed Rocketman into submission.
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Originally Posted by reed067
That’s not the point. While Trump is good was good at outsmarting and paying local politicians people like Kim, Putin, etc are out of his leagues. Trump can’t compete with the big leagues.
Did you just say a 33 year old dictator who just gave up the only leverage he has (nuclear weapons) is out of the league of a 71 year old billionaire who managed to become the leader of the free world with no political or military experience?
Here's a clue, one man inherited his power through transgenerational force, the other gained his power through a legitimate election.
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