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Old 04-29-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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Apparently you do, as they all find employment by Americans, get driver's licenses issued by Americans, find American sanctuary cities to live in, and get multiple amnesties by American presidents.

Your opinion is contrary to the facts.
We don't NEED it, although, there are many who seem to prefer that we have it.
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Old 04-29-2018, 07:49 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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You're right; Canada is compassionate,..... but we're not stupid.
Canada is only "compassionate" if you're white or you're a highly-educated non-white immigrant.

Otherwise, Canada will tell you to go to hell.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Canada is only "compassionate" if you're white or you're a highly-educated non-white immigrant.

Otherwise, Canada will tell you to go to hell.
Their country and their right who they let into their country.
Why make Canada share in a problem American politicians created starting with Reagan and his blanket amnesty back in the 1980's?
If Americans would stop employing illegals maybe they wouldn't come here in the first place.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:07 PM
 
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Why?

Canada does not need cheap labour..
Because you guys are always bragging about how compassionate you are, here's the chance to prove it. Put your money where your mouth is. Mexico a is a failed state and an embarrassment to NA, so we can't be the only nation baring the burden, you guys are gonna have to pitch in.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:08 PM
 
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Their country and their right who they let into their country.
Why make Canada share in a problem American politicians created starting with Reagan and his blanket amnesty back in the 1980's?
If Americans would stop employing illegals maybe they wouldn't come here in the first place.
No one is making them, but they should help out their big brother because the little brother is a pot smoking loser that doesn't want to get a job.

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Old 04-29-2018, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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I agree with Brusan why should Canada have to pay for the lack of leadership? If we had real leaders the illegal aliens would be stopped at the border many years ago. We made the bed and we should be the only ones sleeping in it.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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I agree with Brusan why should Canada have to pay for the lack of leadership? If we had real leaders the illegal aliens would be stopped at the border many years ago. We made the bed and we should be the only ones sleeping in it.
A. We're Canada's big brother and B. Mexico is the little loser brother. Brothers look after each other, no matter what, but middle brother isn't carrying their weight.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Those asylum shoppers went through at least 1 perfectly good Country to demand entrance here.
Why not make it 2...we can keep the caravan flowing to Vancouver.
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Because you guys are always bragging about how compassionate you are, here's the chance to prove it. Put your money where your mouth is. Mexico a is a failed state and an embarrassment to NA, so we can't be the only nation baring the burden, you guys are gonna have to pitch in.
Mexico a failed state? No. Now, Somalia--that's a failed state. Mexico is nowhere near Somalia on the "failed state" scale. I'm pretty sure that if a Mexican national were to show up in Canada, claiming refugee status, they'd be sent back immediately. Why? Because Mexico is not a failed state where citizens are subject to an arbitrary and capricious government that does not follow rule-of-law; and its standard of living, while perhaps not up to that of the US or Canada, is pretty good compared to many places in the world. Thus, Mexicans would not qualify as refugees under Canadian or international law.

Illegal immigrants? Sure, we have some, and not just Mexicans. Mostly, illegals in Canada are foreigners who overstay their visa. But illegals are not necessarily refugees; and while the claims of the latter might be entertained, the former will not be tolerated--illegals will be deported.

IMHO, if you want anybody to blame for your illegal immigration crisis, you need only look into a mirror. For many years now, we've heard from Americans how the US is the greatest country in the history of the world, how anybody can be anything they want to be, and that the US is the only country that has real freedom (whatever that is). You've convinced yourselves that absolutely everybody in the world would happily move to the US if given that chance. And that message has resonated around the world. Though many world citizens in developed countries are smart enough to see it as simple hyperbole that deserves an eyeroll, there are just as many in less-developed countries who take it as gospel. Canada? The UK? Australia? "Why go to those places, when the US is best? The US says that it is the best, and I want to go to the best, so I want to go to the US." I have no doubt that Mexicans have heard the same message loud and clear, and as a result, they want to be in the US--Canada is just not on their radar.

With all that said, I think Canada is compassionate, contrary to your assertion. While the US was trying to ban refugees whose homes had been bombed to hell and back, just because they were Muslim, Canada took them in. When your president's rhetoric sends Haitians, Nigerians, and other perfectly legal refugees in the US, to escape the US and illegally step across the Canadian border into someplace they never planned to be; and Canada shelters them, feeds them, and gives them a fair hearing, they're getting more compassionate treatment than they obviously got in the US.

But beyond that, we have been there to help our American friends when they have needed it. Canada didn't just break international diplomatic law when we helped six American diplomats out of Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis; Canada shattered it. When the US closed its airspace on 9/11, Canada took the inbound American aircraft and American citizens in, regardless of the danger they posed to Canada and Canadians (remember, on the morning of September 11, 2001, nobody knew what was happening, and for all Canada knew, there were additional terrorists on inbound aircraft, who might do who-knows-what). Compassionate? Yes. And you're welcome.

Canada will always stand ready to help the United States. Natural disasters in the US, international terrorism affecting the US, diplomatic help that the US might need anywhere in the world--just ask, and we will be there in a New York/Toronto minute. () But when the problem is a domestic US problem, created by US policy, and does not involve refugees by the true definition of the word--the US should not expect Canada's help.

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Old 04-30-2018, 03:44 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Aaah no, we don't need cheap labour to change our tires and oil or cut our lawns. We prefer to do those simple chores ourselves rather than appear rich to impress the single-wide next door.

The U.S. invited them all with multiple amnesties, driver's licenses and jobs aplenty. You own it now.
Canada is often cited as more liberal, more tolerant etc. People here in the US who are on the left often cite them as an example of civility and decency. This however does not mean they do foolish things in the name of diversity, they do a much better job of managing immigration than we do. This poster who is a Canadian is right. Our northern neighbors are smart enough to control thier border and decide who should and who should not get into thier nation. They let in those who they need through a very well thought out immigration points system. They do not tolerate illegal immigration. Well this conservative thinks we should use Canada’s policy as an example for ourselves on this issue. I also think it’s ridiculous to ask them to help us on this since again he is right to say we created this problem.

We cannot tolerant illegal immigration, no other advanced nation does. I support allowing las much legal immigration as our economy will tolerate but just letting anyone cross the border and claim they have a right to be here is ridiculous. We are a sovereign country and have a right to decide who gets in and who does not. We could learn something about this from our Canadian friends as they have an intelligent and fair immigration policy.
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