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Old 05-01-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Yes but violent crime rate is down nationally. Society is decaying but stats say we're fine.
yeah well....
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:11 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I was out in Frisco for a while back in the 1970s and never saw any of the stuff that's going on there now. I lived in a rough neighborhood too. The "Tenderloin". You'd see winos hanging out in the alleys getting drunk. Maybe see kids passing around a joint in Golden Gate Park. That was about it. And the city was more affordable then. It seems like the more expensive it's gotten the worse the quality of life problems have gotten. Weird.
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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I was out in Frisco for a while back in the 1970s and never saw any of the stuff that's going on there now. I lived in a rough neighborhood too. The "Tenderloin". You'd see winos hanging out in the alleys getting drunk. Maybe see kids passing around a joint in Golden Gate Park. That was about it. And the city was more affordable then. It seems like the more expensive it's gotten the worse the quality of life problems have gotten. Weird.
That is puzzling to me. SF RE prices in millions, yet vacant storefronts and dodging piles of poop. Still the prices keep rising, desirable real estate. How do you dine at a fine restaurant and come outside to the smell of excrement without losing your expensive dinner.

As areas around my town gentrify, my town gets people swept out, not always quality people. Yet due to its proximity to higher priced areas it too becomes higher priced, even with more traffic, crime, noise and lower quality of life. Maybe when homeless crap in my driveway my home will be worth a couple mil. It's when you know you have made it.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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That is puzzling to me. SF RE prices in millions, yet vacant storefronts and dodging piles of poop. Still the prices keep rising, desirable real estate. How do you dine at a fine restaurant and come outside to the smell of excrement without losing your expensive dinner.

As areas around my town gentrify, my town gets people swept out, not always quality people. Yet due to its proximity to higher priced areas it too becomes higher priced, even with more traffic, crime, noise and lower quality of life. Maybe when homeless crap in my driveway my home will be worth a couple mil. It's when you know you have made it.
It’s similar in L.A , right now the area around Skid Row is a hot neighborhood. Lots of trendy restaurants and bars . I guess some people think it’s cool and edgy to live in a “gritty” area .

Many liberals are also brainwashed to think if they complain about those types of things they aren’t being “tolerant or “liberal “ enough .
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Great let Darwin have the win. Drug addicts go into it with eyes open. Everyone learns the evils of drug use from about the first grade on. Let those who chose to be addicts suffer their fate. Im sick of being told to feel sorry for addicts. It is a self inflicted epidemic.
I know it's heartless, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for the addicts too. Who I do feel sorry for are the hapless commuters that have to run the poop and puke gauntlet every day on the way to work and then again on the way back home. But then again, my feelings of sorrow are tempered by the knowledge that, statistically speaking, most of them voted for the soft-on-crime, legalize-everything liberals who are in charge of running San Francisco (into the ground).

I used to visit San Francisco on a fairly regular basis (once or twice a year) back in the 1990s, and I thought that it was one of the most beautiful and desirable cities I had ever seen. My most recent visit was 10 years ago, and I still loved it. But now, it's just heartbreaking to see what has become of it.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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I guess some people think it’s cool and edgy to live in a “gritty” area .

I've never understood that mentality. Even when I was younger, and thus at the age where "edgy" is supposed to be cool and trendy, it was never appealing to me. Give me the bland, boring suburbs, with our lack of junkies shooting up in the mall parking lots and taking a dump on my driveway, any day.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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And what about pharmaceutical distributors who ship millions of doses of opioids to towns of a few hundred population?
Maybe 10 yrs ago, but definitely not today, ANY doctor giving out 'too many' opioids will be targeted and shut down by the DEA.

BTW, if these powerful pharma companies were making so much money off opioid drugs, why did they just sit down and let Govt regulate their cash cow to death? You believe the pharma industry was OK with giving up all those profits? LOL
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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They have connections and lobbyists.
Apparently they are not that good, since Govt cracked down hard on doctors and opioids! In that regard, the drug cartels had more power/influence, using the DEA, they ensured addicts had only ONE source for their drugs, basically stealing profits away from the pharma industry and handing it over to the cartels.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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I was out in Frisco for a while back in the 1970s and never saw any of the stuff that's going on there now. I lived in a rough neighborhood too. The "Tenderloin". You'd see winos hanging out in the alleys getting drunk. Maybe see kids passing around a joint in Golden Gate Park. That was about it. And the city was more affordable then. It seems like the more expensive it's gotten the worse the quality of life problems have gotten. Weird.
San Francisco has changed beyond all recognition in the last 20 years.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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I've never understood that mentality. Even when I was younger, and thus at the age where "edgy" is supposed to be cool and trendy, it was never appealing to me. Give me the bland, boring suburbs, with our lack of junkies shooting up in the mall parking lots and taking a dump on my driveway, any day.
To each his own.

If I had to live in the suburbs for any length of time, I'd want to gouge my eyes out.
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