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Old 05-02-2018, 12:01 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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I am pro-gun rights & didn’t support the one in March but I allowed my twins (juniors in HS) to participate because I trusted them to remain on campus & not endanger themselves. My issue was concern for student safety vs the issue of gun-control. My response would have been different had they been in elementary school. I probably would have kept them home.

It was a non-issue on 4/20 because we are in Colorado, about an hour south of Columbine & our district just schedules “teacher work days” on 4/20, due to the disruptions & distractions from copycat threats & inevitable lockdowns.

I would be personally against this walkout as well, despite being pro-rights, because again; I’m concerned about student safety. If the twins wanted to participate I would allow it because I trust them & they are not grade-schoolers.

The schools did not have a legal duty to obtain parental consent because the students remained on campus but there is an implied moral obligation of “in loco parentis”; meaning the school is to act “in place of the parent”. I do not recall being consulted.
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Old 05-02-2018, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Aren’t protests supposed to be against something?
I suppose so?
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:37 AM
 
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ent-walkout-s/
St. Charles HS students planning Wednesday walkout in support of Second Amendment, school says - Elgin Courier-News




A high school student from NM named Will Riley has organized a nationwide walkout to express support for the Second Amendment. Students plan to walk out for 16 minutes, or 1 minute less than the anti-gun walkouts staged last month. Maybe the pro-gun students wanted to show that they are 1 minute more dedicated to their studies than the anti-gunners.


Public schools have put themselves in a box by promoting the anti-gun walkouts last month. Now if they don't allow similar treatment to the opposing view, they would look like great hypocrites.
They didn't 'promote' them -- they allowed them, supported them but promote?

The issue was the kids were going to walk out.

You have a school of 4000 kids -- 3000 kids go to walk out -- if you don't 'support' it -- provide order, rules, etc....it becomes a difficult situation to manage.

Didn't they try this before and it kind of fizzled? A quick google of 'students walk out in support of 2nd Amendment" shows a number of walk outs. They need to get organized. Schools in Colorado already walked out in April -- so the school board is suppose to let them walk out again. Are they walking out for a purpose or just to walk out of school and get some fun in the sun time.

Here in the south -- this is a silly time to stage a walk out -- exams, AP testing, senioritis......end of school year activities.

Maybe up north it works......
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:45 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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They didn't 'promote' them -- they allowed them, supported them but promote?

The issue was the kids were going to walk out.

You have a school of 4000 kids -- 3000 kids go to walk out -- if you don't 'support' it -- provide order, rules, etc....it becomes a difficult situation to manage.

Didn't they try this before and it kind of fizzled? A quick google of 'students walk out in support of 2nd Amendment" shows a number of walk outs. They need to get organized. Schools in Colorado already walked out in April -- so the school board is suppose to let them walk out again. Are they walking out for a purpose or just to walk out of school and get some fun in the sun time.

Here in the south -- this is a silly time to stage a walk out -- exams, AP testing, senioritis......end of school year activities.

Maybe up north it works......
That's the same schedule everywhere. AP tests start around May 1 nationally, those states with exit exams will be starting sometime this month if they haven't already, etc.
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:51 AM
 
Location: SacTown
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They should remain in school and have faith in the constitution, that gun grabbers will always fail in the attempt to disarm law abiding citizens. Staying in school and ignoring the irrational left will convey a stronger message IMO.
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:54 AM
 
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They didn't 'promote' them -- they allowed them, supported them but promote?

The issue was the kids were going to walk out.

You have a school of 4000 kids -- 3000 kids go to walk out -- if you don't 'support' it -- provide order, rules, etc....it becomes a difficult situation to manage.

Didn't they try this before and it kind of fizzled? A quick google of 'students walk out in support of 2nd Amendment" shows a number of walk outs. They need to get organized. Schools in Colorado already walked out in April -- so the school board is suppose to let them walk out again. Are they walking out for a purpose or just to walk out of school and get some fun in the sun time.

Here in the south -- this is a silly time to stage a walk out -- exams, AP testing, senioritis......end of school year activities.

Maybe up north it works......
One student or a thousand....... doesn't matter, as long as each school treats this the same way they treated the last walk out. If there is going to be a one and done rule then state it. And it applies across the board to all protests. The schools have put themselves in a spot here, no matter which side of this particular argument you stand on. Do they now tolerate any and all walk outs? It's going to get dicey............
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Punishment for participating in this march should be the same...no more, no less...as the punishment that students who participated in the earlier anti gun walkouts received.
Agreed.

I admire all of the students standing up for what they believe in.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I wonder if the schools will be giving these kids the same support/treatment the anti-gunners got a few months back?

If you do it for one you have to do it for another.

That's what public schools taught me: we're all in this in this together! (ironically at gunpoint)

I wonder if the pro-gunners will be telling these kids to stay in school as they told the survivors and others a few weeks ago.

I absolutely agree that if you do or say it for one cause, you must do it for another.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:15 AM
 
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They should remain in school and have faith in the constitution, that gun grabbers will always fail in the attempt to disarm law abiding citizens. Staying in school and ignoring the irrational left will convey a stronger message IMO.
"faith in the constitution" lol that silliness is what got us here. No one respects that moldy piece of paper especially the den of thieves known as congress.
For further evidence see the 90% of things the fedguv does that it was never authorized to do.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Oh yes, this is obviously all it could be. There's simply no way these kids could actually feel strongly enough about their 2nd amendment rights to march in support of them? There's absolutely no chance that they may have noticed the "no holds barred" attacks that have been widely publicized over the last several months, prompting them to take a stand for their own beliefs about guns and the 2nd amendment. It must be the NRA, programming them while they sleep or their parents pushing them. It's funny, when they march for gun regulations, they are free-thinking young adults standing up for what they believe in. But the minute some of them show support for the other side of the issue, they are mindless bots controlled by their parents and the NRA. Splendid.
So if kids are pro-gun it's because they "feel strongly enough about their 2nd amendment rights to march in support of them" but if they are in favor of stricter controls they are simply mindless drones parroting what their parents told them to say and/or following the herd?

Interesting double-standard.
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