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Old 05-29-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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This guy has been posting this "surveillance" nonsense over and over and it keeps getting shot down by the facts. ...
Truth is the mortal enemy of the lie.

Apparently, not mortal enough on C-D.

 
Old 05-29-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: United States
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This guy has been posting this "surveillance" nonsense over and over and it keeps getting shot down by the facts. You know what they say about trying the same thing over and over and over...

It has been widely reported for a year, and a half that Carter Page was under surveillance with a FISA Title-1 warrant, are you denying that?

So you are denying that 4 members of the Trump campaign staff were under surveillance?

The NYT, and WaPo have reported that 4 members of the Trump campaign were under surveillance, are you saying that they were lying?
 
Old 05-29-2018, 10:24 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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It has been widely reported for a year, and a half that Carter Page was under surveillance with a FISA Title-1 warrant, are you denying that?

So you are denying that 4 members of the Trump campaign staff were under surveillance?

The NYT, and WaPo have reported that 4 members of the Trump campaign were under surveillance, are you saying that they were lying?
See post #170.
 
Old 05-29-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Maybe Trump is panicking because Giuliani was booed at a Yankees game. Not a good look for any of them.
 
Old 05-29-2018, 11:52 AM
 
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See post #170.
Yes, here is a quote from the article from post #170

Although it’s now evident that in mid-2016 the FBI used one or more informants to sniff around the Trump campaign

Since when do informant "sniff" around?

We already know who this "informant" is, his name is Stefan Halper.

Halper was not part of the campaign, Halper initiated contact with at least 3 Trump campaign staff members that we currently can confirm.

Informants do not go out and initiate contact, gather information from a targeted person without their knowledge, and then report back to those that sent them.
 
Old 05-29-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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You have been misinformed.

The surveillance was of Russian agents. Folks on team Trump got caught up in the counterintelligence investigation.

Republican Rubio confirmed this.

Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed this.

NYT and WaPo confirmed this.

Even the Observer, a paper owned by the Kushner family, published a clear run down on what was going on and it confirms this.

What Did the FBI Do in 2016 About Russian Connections to Donald Trump? | Observer

Though Trump and his followers continue to lie about how there was "widespread surveillance of the Trump campaign" this is a lie. No reputable source confirms this.

You are being lied to.
He won't listen,he like trump is ignoring facts(real ones).
 
Old 05-29-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I love how all you Trump haters are ignoring the fact that the NYT, and WaPo have confirmed that there was widespread surveillance of the Trump campaign, including human sources making contact with campaign staff.
That is not illegal and given the fact that some people who joined the Trump campaign were known to have contact with the Russians it was proper. Do you not know that police at all levels use undercover resources regularly?
 
Old 05-29-2018, 09:07 PM
 
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That is not illegal and given the fact that some people who joined the Trump campaign were known to have contact with the Russians it was proper. Do you not know that police at all levels use undercover resources regularly?
What Bill Clinton under investigation for his contact, and money he recieved from the Russians?

Was Tony Podesta under investigation for doing the same thing as Manafort?
 
Old 05-29-2018, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
You have been misinformed.

The surveillance was of Russian agents. Folks on team Trump got caught up in the counterintelligence investigation.

Republican Rubio confirmed this.

Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed this.

NYT and WaPo confirmed this.

Even the Observer, a paper owned by the Kushner family, published a clear run down on what was going on and it confirms this.

What Did the FBI Do in 2016 About Russian Connections to Donald Trump? | Observer

Though Trump and his followers continue to lie about how there was "widespread surveillance of the Trump campaign" this is a lie. No reputable source confirms this.

You are being lied to.
Wasn't the Russian a low level agent and the reason for that survaliance was lets see what Trump is up too?
 
Old 05-29-2018, 10:15 PM
 
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I just can't help but suspect that Trump did something to Giuliani. Slept with one of his ex wives, or his daughter, or something. Cause the guy is just destroying him in his legal cases.

I do wish these articles would stop repeating the lie that Stormy Daniels and Trump have a NDA. They do not. Its a settlement agreement, and the difference is pretty important from a legal standpoint.
Nice point on that distinction, had not been aware of that.
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